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3rd piston ring please help

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  • ZrakoZ Zrako

    @declan well , is your clutch set up properly? I mean the tension .

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    Calum
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    @zrako yeah, if it's losing power under load then it sounds like clutch is slipping.

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      @zrako yeah, if it's losing power under load then it sounds like clutch is slipping.

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      declan
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      @calum the clutch was in a bad state but since I got a new lever and adjuster it will pop the front wheel up but it's losing the power after initially using the clutch it feels good but after then it's losing power I don't believe it to be the clutch but I really thought it was till I got a new lever the other day before that I could redline drop the clutch and barely move

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      • declanD declan

        @calum the clutch was in a bad state but since I got a new lever and adjuster it will pop the front wheel up but it's losing the power after initially using the clutch it feels good but after then it's losing power I don't believe it to be the clutch but I really thought it was till I got a new lever the other day before that I could redline drop the clutch and barely move

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        @declan is there plenty of free play on the lever?

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        • ZrakoZ Zrako

          @declan is there plenty of free play on the lever?

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          @zrako yes mate

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            Yeah but the load on the clutch in 1st is going to be minimal.

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            • CalumC Calum

              Yeah but the load on the clutch in 1st is going to be minimal.

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              @calum so what would you lean to will bad plates have this effect?

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              • declanD declan

                @calum so what would you lean to will bad plates have this effect?

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                @declan Wouldn't be a bad place to start.

                An idea would be to see if it pulls fine with no load on the engine.

                So first just put the bike on a paddock, start it and go through all the gears. If that works no problems then jump on bike and od the same but keep it part throttle only. No load.

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                • CalumC Calum

                  @declan Wouldn't be a bad place to start.

                  An idea would be to see if it pulls fine with no load on the engine.

                  So first just put the bike on a paddock, start it and go through all the gears. If that works no problems then jump on bike and od the same but keep it part throttle only. No load.

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                  declan
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                  @calum I've tried it with no load it works pretty much as it should

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                  • declanD declan

                    @calum I've tried it with no load it works pretty much as it should

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                    @declan With load on the engine does it revs hard and no power. Clutch is slipping then.

                    Either adjust it or replace it.

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                    • CalumC Calum

                      @declan With load on the engine does it revs hard and no power. Clutch is slipping then.

                      Either adjust it or replace it.

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                      declan
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                      @calum no it lacks power off the line when moving its decent shift into 3rd the revs die down to a slow idle and you go about 3mph

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                      • declanD declan

                        @calum no it lacks power off the line when moving its decent shift into 3rd the revs die down to a slow idle and you go about 3mph

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                        @declan Nah doesn't sound like clutch then.

                        Sounds like it's a carb setting.

                        Take the plug out and have a look.

                        Could simply just not getting enough fuel.

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                        • CalumC Calum

                          @declan Nah doesn't sound like clutch then.

                          Sounds like it's a carb setting.

                          Take the plug out and have a look.

                          Could simply just not getting enough fuel.

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                          declan
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                          @calum that's what I'm thinking as after I try hit 3rd and stop it feels starved not revving clean and real slow idle but sorts it's self out after a rest I've been doing some tests as it's got an open filter not the box as I have no rubber or filter for the air box but I haven noticed anything by restricting air flow

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                          • declanD declan

                            @calum no it lacks power off the line when moving its decent shift into 3rd the revs die down to a slow idle and you go about 3mph

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                            @declan Sounds like fueling to me mate.

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                              @declan Sounds like fueling to me mate.

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                              @calum I'll pick up a new carb and see how it goes thank you

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                              • declanD declan

                                @calum I'll pick up a new carb and see how it goes thank you

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                                @declan Just sort heone you got outmate.

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                                  @declan Just sort heone you got outmate.

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                                  @calum ive been through it more times I can count and never found any issues it's spotless and as for the settings I wouldn't have a clue I'm guess it's way lean on the a:f screw but it turns off on command when hot using the choke

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                                    Sounds rich to me. Lean would cause a high hanging idle. The bike should still rev out, just without much power.

                                    When rich, everything is sluggish, and going WOT can feel like youre hitting a rev limiter, or as if the bike has a restriction.

                                    Have you done all the basics? Fresh plug and clean airfilter? Is your floathight correct?

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                                    • J Jens Eskildsen

                                      Sounds rich to me. Lean would cause a high hanging idle. The bike should still rev out, just without much power.

                                      When rich, everything is sluggish, and going WOT can feel like youre hitting a rev limiter, or as if the bike has a restriction.

                                      Have you done all the basics? Fresh plug and clean airfilter? Is your floathight correct?

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                                      declan
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                                      @jens-eskildsen that's a no on the float I've never really done that unless I really need to and if it's rich what do you reccomend a:f screw for move the float pin? Plug is good and filter is good no air leaks

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                                        Jens Eskildsen
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                                        You could remove the side of the airbox and do a testrun and see if its better or worse.
                                        Dont think you can adjust the airscrew enough to sort this out.

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                                        • J Jens Eskildsen

                                          You could remove the side of the airbox and do a testrun and see if its better or worse.
                                          Dont think you can adjust the airscrew enough to sort this out.

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                                          @jens-eskildsen I have an open filter cone style

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