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Dtr 125 zeelectronic info

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  • T terry.tz
    26 Oct 2017, 15:19

    so won't save much and there will be no servo control and kind of not plug and play I don't know just making the assumption

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    declan
    wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 16:28 last edited by
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    @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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      26 Oct 2017, 16:28

      @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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      Irongamer727
      wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 16:29 last edited by
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      @declan write to them yourself. Just Google ignitech and email them. They will answer in a matter of minutes!

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        26 Oct 2017, 16:29

        @declan write to them yourself. Just Google ignitech and email them. They will answer in a matter of minutes!

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        wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 16:29 last edited by
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        @irongamer727 will do thank you!

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        • D declan
          26 Oct 2017, 16:28

          @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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          Calum
          wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 16:55 last edited by
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          @declan Could just step the ignition for more advance. That's what they do on the Rotax 122 engines.

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          • C Calum
            26 Oct 2017, 16:55

            @declan Could just step the ignition for more advance. That's what they do on the Rotax 122 engines.

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            scrimsmustang
            wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 21:48 last edited by
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            @calum In theory could you not just try moving the statorplate to advance or retard the ignition slightly. I notice they are fixed set on all DTR,s by the screws with no adjustment allowed. Thats not the case on old DT,s like 175MX or DT125LC MK1 etc these all use cdi ignitions but all allow advance and retard at the statorplate.

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            • S scrimsmustang
              26 Oct 2017, 21:48

              @calum In theory could you not just try moving the statorplate to advance or retard the ignition slightly. I notice they are fixed set on all DTR,s by the screws with no adjustment allowed. Thats not the case on old DT,s like 175MX or DT125LC MK1 etc these all use cdi ignitions but all allow advance and retard at the statorplate.

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              Calum
              wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 22:15 last edited by
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              @scrimsmustang Bore out the holes on the stator play to allow some wiggle room.

              The problem is, you're stepping the whole ignition, even at high RPM's where the ignition will be slightly retarded to reduce the risk of detonation.

              I know they do it to the Rotax, but then that's a competition engine. Where people maticulously maintain them. And they're built every season.

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                26 Oct 2017, 22:15

                @scrimsmustang Bore out the holes on the stator play to allow some wiggle room.

                The problem is, you're stepping the whole ignition, even at high RPM's where the ignition will be slightly retarded to reduce the risk of detonation.

                I know they do it to the Rotax, but then that's a competition engine. Where people maticulously maintain them. And they're built every season.

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                scrimsmustang
                wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 22:23 last edited by
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                @calum Yeah allow a little wiggle room like you say, its possible on the old ones. I recon its just Yamaha playing safe on the DTR if you have a strobe light you can do it I recon to any degree you want from a base setting of standard. In theory

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                  gareth_iowc
                  wrote on 27 Oct 2017, 22:42 last edited by
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                  @Darty do you think there will be much need for one on a yz? or the cdi will be well tuned as is?

                  DT125R 2000
                  DRZ400 2006
                  Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                  • G gareth_iowc
                    27 Oct 2017, 22:42

                    @Darty do you think there will be much need for one on a yz? or the cdi will be well tuned as is?

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                    Darty
                    wrote on 28 Oct 2017, 00:04 last edited by
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                    @gareth_iowc stock YZ CDI is already very good, tuning YZ ignition timing is much more specialist knowledge,

                    Unless your runing a custom pipe and port timing, I wouldnt bother with a custom CDI,

                    Keep it real

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                    • G gareth_iowc
                      27 Oct 2017, 22:42

                      @Darty do you think there will be much need for one on a yz? or the cdi will be well tuned as is?

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                      Calum
                      wrote on 28 Oct 2017, 00:09 last edited by
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                      @gareth_iowc Yes, there is a need for aftermarket CDI's always. The YZ is designed for track use and isn't great for road. Retarding the ignition, smoothing the band out will help.

                      YOu could also tailor the band to specific tracks.

                      But as Darty says, you're getting very specialist here. You'd need a dyno to measure the results.

                      But on the tame DTR's, it's very noticeable difference.

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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