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  • declanD declan

    @calum I’ll get you a video tomorrow

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    @declan playing with fire

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      @declan playing with fire

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      Calum
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      @terry-tz Yeah, kinda my thoughts.

      Depends what he has actually done though. But doesn't sound like it's addressing the issue...why is it running lean?

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        @terry-tz Yeah, kinda my thoughts.

        Depends what he has actually done though. But doesn't sound like it's addressing the issue...why is it running lean?

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        @calum seized air fuel screw no means of getting it out yet it’s proper in there litteraly just fitted a washer to the choke push rod to richen the mixture

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        • declanD declan

          @calum seized air fuel screw no means of getting it out yet it’s proper in there litteraly just fitted a washer to the choke push rod to richen the mixture

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          @Calum It did more than address it it fixed it no stuttering from idle revs nice and clean

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          • CalumC Calum

            @terry-tz Yeah, kinda my thoughts.

            Depends what he has actually done though. But doesn't sound like it's addressing the issue...why is it running lean?

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            @calum think I’m running ever so slightly rich when I’m riding And come to a stop the revs are really low but it doesn’t die it’s fine when riding and when it’s idling before and after I’ve been out

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              but won't this mean you have less 2 stroke oil going through they seem to send a fair bit but your changing the mix at all rev ranges so it might be rich at 1-3k but very lean at higher revs

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                but won't this mean you have less 2 stroke oil going through they seem to send a fair bit but your changing the mix at all rev ranges so it might be rich at 1-3k but very lean at higher revs

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                finnerz89
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                @terry-tz the 2 stroke pump runs off the throttle so won't be affected.

                Current bikes:
                DT125X '07
                Street Triple R '11
                Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                Previous:
                DR650RSE '96
                FJ1200 '92

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                  @terry-tz the 2 stroke pump runs off the throttle so won't be affected.

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                  @finnerz89 It's driven off a nylon cog directly from crankshaft. So yes and no. It is driven from both the throttle and crank.

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                    but the choke is not and you are putting more fuel in from the choke I don't know just saying its possible and when your at mid revs the choke might not give either fuel also and from my understanding, they lean out mid revs before getting rich again so could be a problem just what I would be thinking about if it was me I mean I would try what he has done, to be honest, but I would be like to fix it asap

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                    • terry.tzT terry.tz

                      but the choke is not and you are putting more fuel in from the choke I don't know just saying its possible and when your at mid revs the choke might not give either fuel also and from my understanding, they lean out mid revs before getting rich again so could be a problem just what I would be thinking about if it was me I mean I would try what he has done, to be honest, but I would be like to fix it asap

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                      @terry-tz Hey, ditto...

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                      • CalumC Calum

                        @finnerz89 It's driven off a nylon cog directly from crankshaft. So yes and no. It is driven from both the throttle and crank.

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                        @calum I could've worded that better, driven off the crank, controlled by the throttle. Either way a rich fuel/air mix won't really affect the amount of oil supplied by the pump will it?

                        Current bikes:
                        DT125X '07
                        Street Triple R '11
                        Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                        Previous:
                        DR650RSE '96
                        FJ1200 '92

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                          @calum I could've worded that better, driven off the crank, controlled by the throttle. Either way a rich fuel/air mix won't really affect the amount of oil supplied by the pump will it?

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                          @finnerz89 I think, in this instance, the fuel change is so little that it's not really the issue here.

                          The issue is that putting a washer behind the choke isn't fixing the problem, and I think we're all in agreement with this.

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                            @finnerz89 I think, in this instance, the fuel change is so little that it's not really the issue here.

                            The issue is that putting a washer behind the choke isn't fixing the problem, and I think we're all in agreement with this.

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                            @calum most definitely lol

                            Current bikes:
                            DT125X '07
                            Street Triple R '11
                            Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                            Previous:
                            DR650RSE '96
                            FJ1200 '92

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                              @Calum agreed but the oil might still be an issue as the choke is not driven off the throttle and is supplying some fuel without the throttle ie no oil well low oil relative to fuel and it probably won't keep enough flow in the mid-range so low oil plus low fuel I would be riding with caution unless I was confident I was getting enough might not be much difference but I suppose it depends on what you use your bike for

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                                @Calum agreed but the oil might still be an issue as the choke is not driven off the throttle and is supplying some fuel without the throttle ie no oil well low oil relative to fuel and it probably won't keep enough flow in the mid-range so low oil plus low fuel I would be riding with caution unless I was confident I was getting enough might not be much difference but I suppose it depends on what you use your bike for

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                                @terry-tz I’m not by any means saying that this is a perfect fix but it’s yhe best I can do at this time

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                                  @declan I'm not digging mate I would probably do the same I mean I been running mine with twisted bottom yoke from were I came off, br10 plug no br9's at the time, buckled front wheel and a few things holding together with cable ties 😁 and a few other bits and bobs just pointing out the risks of not fixing

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                                    @declan I'm not digging mate I would probably do the same I mean I been running mine with twisted bottom yoke from were I came off, br10 plug no br9's at the time, buckled front wheel and a few things holding together with cable ties 😁 and a few other bits and bobs just pointing out the risks of not fixing

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                                    @terry-tz oh ye guys remember the thread about iridium plugs well I restricted my bike for a friend never ridden before and it went around the field and the plug was foiled tried cleaning multiple times like 5 - 10, in the end, i put the br10es in iridium plugs are sh!te I tried them one last time and it let me down that's the last time I ever use one again

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                                      @terry-tz oh ye guys remember the thread about iridium plugs well I restricted my bike for a friend never ridden before and it went around the field and the plug was foiled tried cleaning multiple times like 5 - 10, in the end, i put the br10es in iridium plugs are sh!te I tried them one last time and it let me down that's the last time I ever use one again

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                                      finnerz89
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                                      @terry-tz I've ran iridium plugs in mine with no issues, can't say I noticed a difference to standard though

                                      Current bikes:
                                      DT125X '07
                                      Street Triple R '11
                                      Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                                      Previous:
                                      DR650RSE '96
                                      FJ1200 '92

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                                        @terry-tz I've ran iridium plugs in mine with no issues, can't say I noticed a difference to standard though

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                                        @finnerz89 there ok just no reliable at all like you probably have your bike running sweet were as mines, not that sweet running and I restricted it which made it more oily so I mean if your all done tinkering there ok but for the extra price for the not so noticeable performance gain you might as well burn your money and set off early for everything in case you need to change a plug very slightly exaggerated

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                                        • terry.tzT terry.tz

                                          @finnerz89 there ok just no reliable at all like you probably have your bike running sweet were as mines, not that sweet running and I restricted it which made it more oily so I mean if your all done tinkering there ok but for the extra price for the not so noticeable performance gain you might as well burn your money and set off early for everything in case you need to change a plug very slightly exaggerated

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                                          @terry-tz haha 😂 were yours genuine NGK's? I've heard there's a lot of fakes knocking about on eBay that really are shite

                                          Current bikes:
                                          DT125X '07
                                          Street Triple R '11
                                          Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                                          Previous:
                                          DR650RSE '96
                                          FJ1200 '92

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