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Difference tzr125 and dt125

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    oldman
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    Like many people my age have done the big bike thing up to several zx9r's and an rf 900. They were unbelievably fast but the current crop of litre bikes makes them look like mopeds in comparison. They were beyond my ability in all honesty and the temptation to use the power was always there. I was lucky never to come a cropper on one of them and the 650 I have now is more than adequate and would be my first choice for a continental tour (I wish). For a few hours out in the countryside down a few lanes content on the 125s and not as demanding mentally either as a big bike. The temptations not there to wind on the throttle or chase someone that passes. Happy to add a bit of "pep" to the 125s but no more than that, but it's a personal decision and each person's passion is different. Just find it hard to justify spending hundreds of pounds chasing a few bhp when alternative bikes are about to give that extra kick. Does not mean I will never try it though, change is good! Bike I regret selling the most is a zx9r b4 in green with a stage 1 tune (if I remember correctly), absolutely brutal and mint condition, upgraded to newer model but not the same terror when riding😊

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      Like many people my age have done the big bike thing up to several zx9r's and an rf 900. They were unbelievably fast but the current crop of litre bikes makes them look like mopeds in comparison. They were beyond my ability in all honesty and the temptation to use the power was always there. I was lucky never to come a cropper on one of them and the 650 I have now is more than adequate and would be my first choice for a continental tour (I wish). For a few hours out in the countryside down a few lanes content on the 125s and not as demanding mentally either as a big bike. The temptations not there to wind on the throttle or chase someone that passes. Happy to add a bit of "pep" to the 125s but no more than that, but it's a personal decision and each person's passion is different. Just find it hard to justify spending hundreds of pounds chasing a few bhp when alternative bikes are about to give that extra kick. Does not mean I will never try it though, change is good! Bike I regret selling the most is a zx9r b4 in green with a stage 1 tune (if I remember correctly), absolutely brutal and mint condition, upgraded to newer model but not the same terror when riding😊

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      Calum
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      @oldman Yeah, but you can say the same about anything in life. You wanna see the amount people spend on Starlets, when you could say go buy an Evo, or a GTR. Then they tune an Evo/GTR and you say go buy an Audi RS6 and it goes on and on.

      The lads over at Skellerns are mental. Tuning their Air Cooled RD's to like 50+ bhp. There is something about the powercurve of a tuned bike. Or the sense of accomplishment when you hit that goal. It's something to while away the hours thinking over, rather than realising it's all pointless and everything means nothing. I think there is something to be said about chasing a power curve. If you can stand back and say you've built something special, that out classes the competition, that's an achievement in its own right.

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        @oldman Yeah, but you can say the same about anything in life. You wanna see the amount people spend on Starlets, when you could say go buy an Evo, or a GTR. Then they tune an Evo/GTR and you say go buy an Audi RS6 and it goes on and on.

        The lads over at Skellerns are mental. Tuning their Air Cooled RD's to like 50+ bhp. There is something about the powercurve of a tuned bike. Or the sense of accomplishment when you hit that goal. It's something to while away the hours thinking over, rather than realising it's all pointless and everything means nothing. I think there is something to be said about chasing a power curve. If you can stand back and say you've built something special, that out classes the competition, that's an achievement in its own right.

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        declan
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        @calum well I’m not a tuner nor a pro mechanic but there’s something about tinkering tuning and modifying you’re bike which makes me so happy just to know no one has the exact same bike as me even my dt is specific to me

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        • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

          @calum it must be accomplishable to port a 4DL to perform like the SP right?

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          @Irongamer727 hi I tuk my old dtr125-lc2k and just found out iv got a tzr bottom end in it iv had it over 12 years now there is 1 thing thow it keep up with the 420 ktm and smoks any 250 I'd put a picture up but not to show how yet lol iv got the ktm frunt shocks wheel back shock back wheel the best thing it's all sat on a 1988 fram and never been on the road it's been in my family for a while now and been past over to me wen I was kid lol love it to bits tell you 1 thing its cost 300p just for the bearings all ov them and 120 conrod kit 150 for barrel piston kit that's how I found out it's a tzr I told shop it's a dtr125 last week lol an got a call to day and got told to fetch my engine in so I tuk it as you do and yes it's a 2001 dtr engine but full of a tzr shop was gob smakt lol it was all in a LC2K engine I let my friend hav a go wen I got it and he fell off it and bust the middle case so I did the engine swop everything went init the dtr parts I got rid of people say it's not possible my bike shoe sed it were at 1 point if the no wot to do my grate uncel was a bike racer that's were it came from so I'm not show wot it is apart from ktm bits cross dtrx engine case

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            jonne123
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            Does any tzr cylinder fit dtr and whats hp?

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              Calum
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              Not really sure what this chap is on about. In any case the TZRs were not fast. Whatever KTM he beat or 250 must have been hanging. I had the Belgarda TZR RR engine and that was nothing to write home about.

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                Not really sure what this chap is on about. In any case the TZRs were not fast. Whatever KTM he beat or 250 must have been hanging. I had the Belgarda TZR RR engine and that was nothing to write home about.

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                jonne123
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                There is for sale these cylinders. Which ones fit and which one is best?

                4FU00

                2RH00

                Tzr 170cc athena

                Tzr 4194955630

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                  Does any tzr cylinder fit dtr and whats hp?

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                  Stevie Wonder
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                  @jonne123 said in Difference tzr125 and dt125:

                  Does any tzr cylinder fit dtr and whats hp?

                  Recently seen someone fit a 2RK cylinder to a 3MB bottom end. It can be done. I must ask why though considering the 2rk made even less power then the DT

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                    @jonne123 said in Difference tzr125 and dt125:

                    Does any tzr cylinder fit dtr and whats hp?

                    Recently seen someone fit a 2RK cylinder to a 3MB bottom end. It can be done. I must ask why though considering the 2rk made even less power then the DT

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                    jonne123
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                    #39

                    @Stevie-Wonder ok

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                    • Stevie WonderS Stevie Wonder

                      @jonne123 said in Difference tzr125 and dt125:

                      Does any tzr cylinder fit dtr and whats hp?

                      Recently seen someone fit a 2RK cylinder to a 3MB bottom end. It can be done. I must ask why though considering the 2rk made even less power then the DT

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                      declan
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                      @Stevie-Wonder tzr sounds faster and the cylinder design looks better too so I guess you can pretend it’s faster

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                      • declanD declan

                        @Stevie-Wonder tzr sounds faster and the cylinder design looks better too so I guess you can pretend it’s faster

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                        Stevie Wonder
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                        @declan said in Difference tzr125 and dt125:

                        @Stevie-Wonder tzr sounds faster and the cylinder design looks better too so I guess you can pretend it’s faster

                        Tzr = sports bike
                        Sports = fast
                        Tzr + dt = fast bike

                        It’s maths.

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                        • CalumC Calum

                          Not really sure what this chap is on about. In any case the TZRs were not fast. Whatever KTM he beat or 250 must have been hanging. I had the Belgarda TZR RR engine and that was nothing to write home about.

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                          james
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                          @Calum hi pal iv dun a lot ov work on it with the tuning and its cost me in the long run but I love it it's an 1989 model how do u up lose a pik if you click on my name ull see the bike

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                          • jamesJ james

                            @Calum hi pal iv dun a lot ov work on it with the tuning and its cost me in the long run but I love it it's an 1989 model how do u up lose a pik if you click on my name ull see the bike

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                            @james said in Difference tzr125 and dt125:

                            @Calum hi pal iv dun a lot ov work on it with the tuning and its cost me in the long run but I love it it's an 1989 model how do u up lose a pik

                            I’ll save Cal the time of explaining how to you, I owe him that much at least 😂

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