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DT50X Engine Swap & Build

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  • D DanRacing
    30 Nov 2018, 13:57

    Heyo Guys!
    Daniel from DAN RACING here

    I bought this bike december 2017 like this, it almost didn't run and it was in pretty bad shape.
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    Up to now, I got it like this

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    It goes to 140km/h GPS speed power wheelies in 1st and second, clutch wheelies until 5th , nothing is left stock, everything is made to get everything out of the little 86cc.

    But I wanted more, Something with more torque, with low end power and everything, I decided to do an engine swap.
    I will be fully building a DT125R engine. Updates with more pictures coming soon :winking_face:

    YOU CAN ALSO CHECK OUT THE BUILD IN MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/DannyTVDANRACING

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    NINJA
    wrote on 30 Nov 2018, 19:47 last edited by
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    @DanRacing A very interesting build, I'll look forwards to more updates. :thumbs_up_light_skin_tone:

    SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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      Irongamer727
      wrote on 1 Dec 2018, 12:08 last edited by
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      Tpr 86cc? Had one of those as a moped 2 years ago!

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        DanRacing
        wrote on 1 Dec 2018, 20:48 last edited by DanRacing 12 Jan 2018, 20:49
        #6

        Started cutting the frame today, the 'half moon' on the side of the frame are so the clutch case clears up and i can remove it without removing the whole engine, I will still weld something there to fill up the gap and reinforce it. ALso cut the front mounts off. Will be welding new ones
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        First look the engine inside there, nothing welded or stuck, it's just a mockup engine, not the one that will be put in of course 🤣 🤣

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        @Irongamer727 Yup, TPR86 kit 😉

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        • D DanRacing
          1 Dec 2018, 20:48

          Started cutting the frame today, the 'half moon' on the side of the frame are so the clutch case clears up and i can remove it without removing the whole engine, I will still weld something there to fill up the gap and reinforce it. ALso cut the front mounts off. Will be welding new ones
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          First look the engine inside there, nothing welded or stuck, it's just a mockup engine, not the one that will be put in of course 🤣 🤣

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          @Irongamer727 Yup, TPR86 kit 😉

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          Calum
          wrote on 1 Dec 2018, 21:17 last edited by
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          @DanRacing You definitely want to run a DTR Engine yeah?

          I know you guys are mental for tuning, but you could just use a better engine. If you're going to all this effort.

          Rotax Engine, KTM Engine....

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            1 Dec 2018, 21:17

            @DanRacing You definitely want to run a DTR Engine yeah?

            I know you guys are mental for tuning, but you could just use a better engine. If you're going to all this effort.

            Rotax Engine, KTM Engine....

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            DanRacing
            wrote on 1 Dec 2018, 22:10 last edited by
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            @Calum In here we make the DTR engine one of the best out there 😉 And i'll be running a 65mm bore with stroker crank by the way 🙂

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            • D DanRacing
              1 Dec 2018, 22:10

              @Calum In here we make the DTR engine one of the best out there 😉 And i'll be running a 65mm bore with stroker crank by the way 🙂

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              declan
              wrote on 2 Dec 2018, 11:47 last edited by
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              @DanRacing this is exciting I wanted to do this swap as I have both bikes but never would use it

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                DanRacing
                wrote on 2 Dec 2018, 23:33 last edited by
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                Got around to building the front mounts, trying to get the motor lined up was the hardest.

                I'm not a welder or anything close, so don't mind the bad weld looks, they seem strong, will try and reinforce them even more tomorrow.
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                The motor is finally sitting by itself, again everything is a mockup still, will build the engine when i get the frame done to avoid any metal shards

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                  DanRacing
                  wrote on 16 Dec 2018, 20:39 last edited by
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                  Ok boys I wasn't happy how the old engine mounts looked, so i went ahead and did stuff right
                  (Getting my driving license for cars also helped me move around and get more parts and stuff)

                  I ordered a machining shop to make me some bushings for the swingarm mount on the engine so it all lines up good without any play.
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                  I cut off my previously made engine mounts, fabricated new ones and tached them in place. Tried to line up the engine the best i could on center with the frame.

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                  Engine looks pretty lined up.

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                  Going to check everything after dinner and finish the welds for the mounts

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                  • D DanRacing
                    16 Dec 2018, 20:39

                    Ok boys I wasn't happy how the old engine mounts looked, so i went ahead and did stuff right
                    (Getting my driving license for cars also helped me move around and get more parts and stuff)

                    I ordered a machining shop to make me some bushings for the swingarm mount on the engine so it all lines up good without any play.
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                    I cut off my previously made engine mounts, fabricated new ones and tached them in place. Tried to line up the engine the best i could on center with the frame.

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                    Engine looks pretty lined up.

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                    Going to check everything after dinner and finish the welds for the mounts

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                    Glynn123
                    wrote on 16 Dec 2018, 20:58 last edited by
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                    @DanRacing looks a sweet build, I can imagine the DT engine to be perfect for a light frame like a 50cc, nice torque and good cruising

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                    • Glynn123G Glynn123
                      16 Dec 2018, 20:58

                      @DanRacing looks a sweet build, I can imagine the DT engine to be perfect for a light frame like a 50cc, nice torque and good cruising

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                      DanRacing
                      wrote on 16 Dec 2018, 21:03 last edited by
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                      @Glynn123 This bike with all the supermotard wheels, suspension and frame is about the same weight as the DT125R, that's one of the reasons i went with the swap. Altought with the AM6 engine it was faster than a mostly stock DT125R it wasn't very good for City Riding with internal ignition and such.
                      The frame is actually sturdier than a DT125R frame from what it seems, alot thicker steel and very big main frame.

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                      • D DanRacing
                        16 Dec 2018, 21:03

                        @Glynn123 This bike with all the supermotard wheels, suspension and frame is about the same weight as the DT125R, that's one of the reasons i went with the swap. Altought with the AM6 engine it was faster than a mostly stock DT125R it wasn't very good for City Riding with internal ignition and such.
                        The frame is actually sturdier than a DT125R frame from what it seems, alot thicker steel and very big main frame.

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                        Glynn123
                        wrote on 16 Dec 2018, 21:17 last edited by
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                        @DanRacing I have a 2003 beta rr 50 supermotard and it weighs nothing compared to my DT haha, although the DT is allot nicer cruising engine

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                          DanRacing
                          wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 01:20 last edited by DanRacing
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                          Well, finally got alot of progress done on the build for the last few days. little update:

                          Sold my old frame and swingarm, and with the money i bought another DT50X just without engine, already with engine mounts for DT125R engine and aprillia RS50 rims(going to sell them)!

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                          Stripped the whole 'new' bike, welded the mounts a little better, sandblasted it(made my shop a total beach) and painted it matt black. I also closed up the bottom end. Everything that's a wear part in the engine has been replaced. Clutch setup is Stock DT125R plates(using the clutch damper) with Bandit 400 Clutch springs. I still gotta finish the cylinder booster ports on the Athena 170cc(Yes i made custom exhaust port with boosters) and yes YPVS will still work and got to fully machine the DT125YPVS head to my needs.
                          But i had to totally test fit the engine, looks great in there!!
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                          Alot of progress is going to be made in the next few days so stay tuned!

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                            DanRacing
                            wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 01:26 last edited by DanRacing
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                            Just a little of what the bike used to be and how it used sound:

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYO7HFVUX1s&feature=youtu.be

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                              29 Mar 2019, 01:26

                              Just a little of what the bike used to be and how it used sound:

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYO7HFVUX1s&feature=youtu.be

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                              NINJA
                              wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 02:55 last edited by
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                              @DanRacing Great work, that engine looks almost factory fitted!!! :thumbs_up_medium-light_skin_tone:

                              SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                                29 Mar 2019, 02:55

                                @DanRacing Great work, that engine looks almost factory fitted!!! :thumbs_up_medium-light_skin_tone:

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                                DanRacing
                                wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 03:33 last edited by
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                                @NINJA Yeah it looks really good on here, with all the fairings and stuff looks really factory, I don't really like the looks of the mounts the previous owner made, maybe i got to make a skid plate or something to cover it up ehe

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                                  29 Mar 2019, 03:33

                                  @NINJA Yeah it looks really good on here, with all the fairings and stuff looks really factory, I don't really like the looks of the mounts the previous owner made, maybe i got to make a skid plate or something to cover it up ehe

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                                  NINJA
                                  wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 09:46 last edited by
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                                  @DanRacing I'm sure that you will get her looking real sweet and I agree with you about selling those RS wheels. Proper spoked wheels will make her look more of a Supermoto for-sure!!! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                  SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                                    29 Mar 2019, 01:20

                                    Well, finally got alot of progress done on the build for the last few days. little update:

                                    Sold my old frame and swingarm, and with the money i bought another DT50X just without engine, already with engine mounts for DT125R engine and aprillia RS50 rims(going to sell them)!

                                    alt text

                                    Stripped the whole 'new' bike, welded the mounts a little better, sandblasted it(made my shop a total beach) and painted it matt black. I also closed up the bottom end. Everything that's a wear part in the engine has been replaced. Clutch setup is Stock DT125R plates(using the clutch damper) with Bandit 400 Clutch springs. I still gotta finish the cylinder booster ports on the Athena 170cc(Yes i made custom exhaust port with boosters) and yes YPVS will still work and got to fully machine the DT125YPVS head to my needs.
                                    But i had to totally test fit the engine, looks great in there!!
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                                    alt text

                                    Alot of progress is going to be made in the next few days so stay tuned!

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                                    Calum
                                    wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 10:41 last edited by
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                                    @DanRacing Would like to see the porting work when you get a chance.

                                    Looks great with that Matte finish

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                      29 Mar 2019, 09:46

                                      @DanRacing I'm sure that you will get her looking real sweet and I agree with you about selling those RS wheels. Proper spoked wheels will make her look more of a Supermoto for-sure!!! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                      DanRacing
                                      wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 14:20 last edited by
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                                      @NINJA said in DT50X Engine Swap & Build:

                                      sure that you will get her looking real sweet and I agree with you about selling those RS wheels. Proper spoked wheels will make her look more of a Supermoto for-sure!

                                      I have matt black rims with candy blue hubs anb chrome reinforced spokes coming 😉

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                                        29 Mar 2019, 10:41

                                        @DanRacing Would like to see the porting work when you get a chance.

                                        Looks great with that Matte finish

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                                        DanRacing
                                        wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 14:21 last edited by
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                                        @Calum Will do, isn't something i like to show everyone, but I can atleast send you a picture 😉 I also do booster exhaust ports on other cylinders(stock DTR ones)

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                                        • D DanRacing
                                          29 Mar 2019, 14:20

                                          @NINJA said in DT50X Engine Swap & Build:

                                          sure that you will get her looking real sweet and I agree with you about selling those RS wheels. Proper spoked wheels will make her look more of a Supermoto for-sure!

                                          I have matt black rims with candy blue hubs anb chrome reinforced spokes coming 😉

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                                          NINJA
                                          wrote on 29 Mar 2019, 18:08 last edited by
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                                          @DanRacing She should look damn good once she's all finished. :thumbs_up_medium-light_skin_tone:

                                          SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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