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  • MiniaM Minia

    Hm, like the shiny swingarm for sure but I'll need to see the finished bike before I can decide whether I like that orange. I'm not a fan of KTM 😛

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    #156

    @Minia Traditionally most MX 125's and indeed Aprilia's in general are black and red, so I wanted to build something a bit different. The original bike is classed as multicoloured, so I wanted to have some main colours and some splashes of other's.

    Aprilla MX125 S2 2007-15.jpg

    So my bike's colour scheme will be some orange, black, red, graphite grey, lot's of shiny silver and more black. It won't be a KTM clone as some may think, but this is the bike where I got some of my inspiration from;

    KTM 450 Sxf-1.jpg

    It will be somewhat similar to that beasty, but with my own spin! Plus it will be minus the black rims, as I loave black rims with black tyres!!! :pouting_face: 🤢 :angry_face_with_horns:

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      #157

      Santa came early this year;

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      A brand new unit, just with a tatty box. I'd been watching it on ebay for like 2 months and eventually decided to take the plunge. I cashed in my Nectar points so I got a cracking discount and ended up getting it for a decent price. Sadly the clutch arm is too short and I've since discovered that you have to buy a complete slave cylinder, as they do not sell just the arms separately. But hey hoo I can sell this slave cylinder and put those funds towards getting a longer version.

      I really liked @Calum DIY hydraulic clutch solution, but as I do not have access to engineering machinery or the skills to make the parts, this was the best way forwards for me. TBC........................................

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      • NINJAN NINJA

        Santa came early this year;

        IMG_2544.JPG

        A brand new unit, just with a tatty box. I'd been watching it on ebay for like 2 months and eventually decided to take the plunge. I cashed in my Nectar points so I got a cracking discount and ended up getting it for a decent price. Sadly the clutch arm is too short and I've since discovered that you have to buy a complete slave cylinder, as they do not sell just the arms separately. But hey hoo I can sell this slave cylinder and put those funds towards getting a longer version.

        I really liked @Calum DIY hydraulic clutch solution, but as I do not have access to engineering machinery or the skills to make the parts, this was the best way forwards for me. TBC........................................

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        @NINJA damn I'm jealous, been after one of them for ages!

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        • Glynn123G Glynn123

          @NINJA damn I'm jealous, been after one of them for ages!

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          @Glynn123 New slave cylinders are £110 on their own, so it may not prove to be an astute buy, if I can not sell this slave cylinder. Hopefully I'll find a buyer and not have to shell out a ton more cash??? 😉

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            @Glynn123 New slave cylinders are £110 on their own, so it may not prove to be an astute buy, if I can not sell this slave cylinder. Hopefully I'll find a buyer and not have to shell out a ton more cash??? 😉

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            @NINJA I could be interested if the shorter slave would work on a DT, let me know if you decide to sell the full unit at some point mate 👍

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            • Glynn123G Glynn123

              @NINJA I could be interested if the shorter slave would work on a DT, let me know if you decide to sell the full unit at some point mate 👍

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              @Glynn123 Will do, from memory the clutch arm is 65mm long, so measure the cable length poking out from the end of your DT's clutch cable. If it will work then I'm sure that we could do a deal??? 😉 😉

              I found this lil nugget on-line, which gives great instructions on how to choose the correct slave cylinder for your bike;

              http://www.venhill.co.uk/media/downloads/HymecSelection.pdf

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                Do it, the Hydraulic clutch conversion is lovely.

                You could get the Hydraulic setup from the HM 125

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                • CalumC Calum

                  Do it, the Hydraulic clutch conversion is lovely.

                  You could get the Hydraulic setup from the HM 125

                  alt text

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                  #163

                  @Calum Where do I get that set-up from please dude???

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                  • NINJAN NINJA

                    @Glynn123 Will do, from memory the clutch arm is 65mm long, so measure the cable length poking out from the end of your DT's clutch cable. If it will work then I'm sure that we could do a deal??? 😉 😉

                    I found this lil nugget on-line, which gives great instructions on how to choose the correct slave cylinder for your bike;

                    http://www.venhill.co.uk/media/downloads/HymecSelection.pdf

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                    @NINJA I'll have a look when I'm next in the shed and let you know mate

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                    • NINJAN NINJA

                      @Calum Where do I get that set-up from please dude???

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                      #165

                      @NINJA Contact Honda Montesa Spares I guess.

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                        #166

                        WOOP WOOP!!! I have found a German supplier who sells just the clutch activation arm/pin separately. So for a bargain 12 euros I can get a longer pin and hopefully I'll just have cut it to length and then swap it out for the current pin, which is too short. So I'm well happy with that solution!!! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                        Furthermore;

                        Rolling, Rolling, Rolling!!!
                        No rest for Santa's elves - the rebuild continue's. Ignore the wheels as they are just a temporary set in-order to get a rolling chassis. Still a lot more work to do, but she's coming together rather nicely now!!!
                        😀😁😉😎😍

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                        Fully resprayed engine and new gear shift lever off a kawasaki ZZR.

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                        New Brembo front brake/master cylinder, plus the Magura Hydro clutch.

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                        I stripped down the old tatty kickstand, resprayed it silver and then lacquered it, so that it blends in with that uber shiny swing arm.

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                        New Protaper Contour bars and new bar risers look mint, plus they add a touch of character to the triple clamps.

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                        • NINJAN NINJA

                          WOOP WOOP!!! I have found a German supplier who sells just the clutch activation arm/pin separately. So for a bargain 12 euros I can get a longer pin and hopefully I'll just have cut it to length and then swap it out for the current pin, which is too short. So I'm well happy with that solution!!! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                          Furthermore;

                          Rolling, Rolling, Rolling!!!
                          No rest for Santa's elves - the rebuild continue's. Ignore the wheels as they are just a temporary set in-order to get a rolling chassis. Still a lot more work to do, but she's coming together rather nicely now!!!
                          😀😁😉😎😍

                          IMG_2792.JPG

                          Fully resprayed engine and new gear shift lever off a kawasaki ZZR.

                          IMG_2798.JPG

                          New Brembo front brake/master cylinder, plus the Magura Hydro clutch.

                          IMG_2805.JPG

                          IMG_2807.JPG

                          I stripped down the old tatty kickstand, resprayed it silver and then lacquered it, so that it blends in with that uber shiny swing arm.

                          IMG_2812.JPG

                          IMG_2815.JPG

                          New Protaper Contour bars and new bar risers look mint, plus they add a touch of character to the triple clamps.

                          IMG_2817.JPG

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                          Calum
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                          #167

                          @NINJA Looking mental smart that!

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                            @NINJA Looking mental smart that!

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                            @Calum Thanks bro, still much work to do, but I'm finally glad to see the fruits of all my labour coming together now. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                              @Calum Thanks bro, still much work to do, but I'm finally glad to see the fruits of all my labour coming together now. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                              @NINJA 🔥 🔥 🔥

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                                A small update;

                                I fell off my mountain bike just before Christmas and have cracked a couple of ribs, so progress has been painfully slow. I managed to clean up the front mudguard and fit it. This is not the stock mudguard as I preferred this one and wanted the front end to look a bit different as well. It came all the way from Poland as there super rare and extremely hard to get hold of. The mounting holes did not match, so I had to drill some new ones. Some of you may recognise it???

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                                She cleaned up real nice too, after a couple of hours rubbing out the scratches and buffing her back up.

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                                I fitted the new ignition switch/barrel and front brake caliper too.

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                                I also recently got this bad boy too and will start wiring her up in the next few days.

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                                  #171

                                  A few more parts arrived today;

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                                  The Italkit carbon reeds and block kit looks very cool and was half the price of the V-Force3 reed kit, so it was a no-brainer really. Sadly the manifold it comes with is straight for the RS, where it needs to be an angled one for the MX. This is in-order to miss the rear shock, so I have had to order that separately and I'm waiting for it to arrive. Apico gear lever tip adds a nice touch to the new lever and neatens it up nicely too. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                  And I test fitted the new R-Tech headlight as I was dying to see how it would look with the new shape DTX front mudguard;

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                                    I was going to ask why you didn't go for the V-Force system. They are factory fitted to the majority of race machines and are the go-to for intake solutions.

                                    I wonder how much real world performance there would be in it. But you'd imagine if it's used as factory racing teams then it must have something.

                                    I do like the shiny new parts though. Exciting times! Great engine to modify.

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                                      I was going to ask why you didn't go for the V-Force system. They are factory fitted to the majority of race machines and are the go-to for intake solutions.

                                      I wonder how much real world performance there would be in it. But you'd imagine if it's used as factory racing teams then it must have something.

                                      I do like the shiny new parts though. Exciting times! Great engine to modify.

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                                      @Calum I've seen owners report that the Italkit reed block works really well with their 140cc kit, so as that kit is on my wish list, I thought it would be a good match. I do like Italkit stuff I think that they make quality parts that do upgrade on the OEM parts and the price was the other reason I went for it. I do like V-Force stuff but they seem overpriced to me, but as with everything quality does not come cheap, so maybe there's something in it???

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                                        @Calum I've seen owners report that the Italkit reed block works really well with their 140cc kit, so as that kit is on my wish list, I thought it would be a good match. I do like Italkit stuff I think that they make quality parts that do upgrade on the OEM parts and the price was the other reason I went for it. I do like V-Force stuff but they seem overpriced to me, but as with everything quality does not come cheap, so maybe there's something in it???

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                                        @NINJA I would love to say, yes V-Force FTW it will make 100 more horsepower...but I just can't see it.

                                        I bought it cause it was a brand, and I always wanted one. They are factory fitted to the YZ's, KTM's and a lot of other Race bikes. But I simply cannot see how it can really make that much difference.

                                        Maybe better over stock, but over another aftermarket one designed for performance. I can't see it. I think the one I got was for the 140 kit too.

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                                          @NINJA I would love to say, yes V-Force FTW it will make 100 more horsepower...but I just can't see it.

                                          I bought it cause it was a brand, and I always wanted one. They are factory fitted to the YZ's, KTM's and a lot of other Race bikes. But I simply cannot see how it can really make that much difference.

                                          Maybe better over stock, but over another aftermarket one designed for performance. I can't see it. I think the one I got was for the 140 kit too.

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                                          @Calum I did google to see if there was a head_2_head test, but sadly I couldn't find one. Race teams are all about the fractions between this and that, but most reports state better throttle response over increased HP. There's not a lot of evidence on which kit is better, but there are quite a few reports of the V-Force reeds wearing out quite quickly and at £50 for a replacement set, I thought that the Italkit would be a more shrewd purchase. Their replacement carbon reeds are £20 cheaper. If there's a 1 or 2 HP gain from fitting these reeds then I would not only be surprised but happy as well. I'm not after every minute gain I can get, I just want a quick bike that's not only fun to ride, but will also be competitive with any others that I meet out on my travels!!!
                                          :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :winking_face: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :winking_face: :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

                                          This was all I could find really;

                                          https://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=97164

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