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  • MiniaM Offline
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    Minia
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    Hello! It's been a while but I guess I might as well upload a project of mine. So in the end I ended up buying a new enduro bike instead of riding my DTR as I didn't want to damage it and found it too heavy to properly enjoy.

    I ended up buying this. The bike was very dirty when I picked it up and in need of attention, but it ran so I thought "f*ck it" and rode it for the entirety of summer. You can find a video of me riding here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgZnqhJuEQ

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    After summer though it was obvious it needed a renovation but unfortunately I could not take care of the work as the bike is in France and I live in the UK. I ended up giving it to a retired man who was an enduro enthusiast with a very impressive garage! At 73 years old he was still rocking it on a Husqvarna TE 125 and Honda CRF 300 both with a rekluse manual clutch.

    Anyway, he took the bike and did an overhaul on it. Fixed the front rim, new tires, restored expansion chamber and exhaust, adjusted the brakes and rebuilt the engine. The bike was running 2 weeks ago when I went back to France but is now back to pieces as the front fork seals are being done up and the gearbox will be treated with an oil change.

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    Tyres and alloys where a mess.
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    Tail pipe taken apart, clearly it's never been cleaned or taken care of.
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    Air filter and box cleanup.
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    Repainted expansion chamber.
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    Tail pipe fixed up with new tyre in the back.
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    Fixup of the frame which was broken.
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    The bike annoyingly didn't have a stand, which is fine if you're next to a wall but finding a tree that suits the right conditions to set the bike next to was a pain. I don't know what happened to the old stand and I didn't manage to find a replacement.

    In the end I enjoy the bike, it runs very well and the power is always there when you need it. Of course I can nitpick and say the gearbox has a mind of its own, it's impossible to get into neutral when the bike is running and standing still. But sometimes it will randomly get back into neutral when you don't ask it to. If you watch the youtube video you might see what I mean.

    Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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    • DartyD Offline
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      Darty
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      Those wood paths looked great, Pampera's are rare in the UK. I know of a couple owned, yet to have a go on one!

      Keep it real

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      • DartyD Darty

        Those wood paths looked great, Pampera's are rare in the UK. I know of a couple owned, yet to have a go on one!

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        Minia
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        @Darty The paths were I ride are next to Brioude, Auvergne. Home of Enduro, when I was there I had the chance to go see the french enduro championships! Very exciting stuff! And it is true, don't see many Pamperas here in the UK. But they're very good bikes, incredibly light and nimble! Only fell off mine once but that was to my stupidity, I forgot it did not have a stand haha.

        Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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        • MightymanM Offline
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          Mightyman
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          Lovely looking bike. My KTM SX and EXC bikes were very similar as yours with their clutches. Could never find neutral when the engine was running.

          TDR 125 - 2001

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          • MiniaM Offline
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            Minia
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            Back in France, GasGas is on its last leg before being finished. Forks done, gearbox oil change and a couple electrical things to do. Dad decided to pick up a mint-looking XT 125 from 1982! Photos in a couple weeks when we return return 🙂

            Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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            • MiniaM Minia

              Hello! It's been a while but I guess I might as well upload a project of mine. So in the end I ended up buying a new enduro bike instead of riding my DTR as I didn't want to damage it and found it too heavy to properly enjoy.

              I ended up buying this. The bike was very dirty when I picked it up and in need of attention, but it ran so I thought "f*ck it" and rode it for the entirety of summer. You can find a video of me riding here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgZnqhJuEQ

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              After summer though it was obvious it needed a renovation but unfortunately I could not take care of the work as the bike is in France and I live in the UK. I ended up giving it to a retired man who was an enduro enthusiast with a very impressive garage! At 73 years old he was still rocking it on a Husqvarna TE 125 and Honda CRF 300 both with a rekluse manual clutch.

              Anyway, he took the bike and did an overhaul on it. Fixed the front rim, new tires, restored expansion chamber and exhaust, adjusted the brakes and rebuilt the engine. The bike was running 2 weeks ago when I went back to France but is now back to pieces as the front fork seals are being done up and the gearbox will be treated with an oil change.

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              Tyres and alloys where a mess.
              alt text

              alt text

              Tail pipe taken apart, clearly it's never been cleaned or taken care of.
              alt text

              alt text

              alt text

              Air filter and box cleanup.
              alt text

              Repainted expansion chamber.
              alt text

              Tail pipe fixed up with new tyre in the back.
              alt text

              Fixup of the frame which was broken.
              alt text

              The bike annoyingly didn't have a stand, which is fine if you're next to a wall but finding a tree that suits the right conditions to set the bike next to was a pain. I don't know what happened to the old stand and I didn't manage to find a replacement.

              In the end I enjoy the bike, it runs very well and the power is always there when you need it. Of course I can nitpick and say the gearbox has a mind of its own, it's impossible to get into neutral when the bike is running and standing still. But sometimes it will randomly get back into neutral when you don't ask it to. If you watch the youtube video you might see what I mean.

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              NINJA
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              @Minia None of those links are working for me dude, are you not able to upload the pics direct or use some other hosting webby please???

              SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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              • NINJAN NINJA

                @Minia None of those links are working for me dude, are you not able to upload the pics direct or use some other hosting webby please???

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                Minia
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                @CYBER-NINJA The links on the main post are from 5-6 months ago, doesn't look like they work any more. When I get back I'll re-upload them somewhere and fix them. I'll also make another reply with the new bike and some photos 🙂 But that won't be for at least 2 weeks since the objective at first was work, not bikes haha

                Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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                  So I'm finally back, journey from hell. But anyways. I've fixed the main post and got the pictures working again. I got to see my lovely GasGas, forks are done and the entire electrical system was basically ripped out. Unfortunately I have no pictures but it was spaghetti everywhere, computer didnt work and the headlight and breaklights don't rely on it so they still work. However if someone plans on putting indicators back on it in the future I will be wishing them luck.

                  Bike has been raised and suspension set to my height and weight.

                  Gearbox still has issues, neutral is a bitch. The bike will not get into neutral the majority of the time. It will also some times pop out of gear and go to neutral. Therefore the gearbox oil change has not been done since it will have to be taken apart.

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                  License plate and rear light had broken off after a failed hill-climb. So a metal bar was bolted onto the rear to hold it all together.
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                  Whilst I was in France dad decided he wanted a bike in France and found himself a 1982 XT125 in good condition. Bike starts well but suffers from carb and fueling issues which means it stalls when going uphill. It was a barn find though so it's going for renovation. So far I know the tyres will be replaced, carb and tank will go for a thorough cleaning and the forks need to be done up as they are leaking. Gearbox and engine feel very smooth so I don't expect any surprises but we'll see.

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                  Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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                  • MiniaM Minia

                    So I'm finally back, journey from hell. But anyways. I've fixed the main post and got the pictures working again. I got to see my lovely GasGas, forks are done and the entire electrical system was basically ripped out. Unfortunately I have no pictures but it was spaghetti everywhere, computer didnt work and the headlight and breaklights don't rely on it so they still work. However if someone plans on putting indicators back on it in the future I will be wishing them luck.

                    Bike has been raised and suspension set to my height and weight.

                    Gearbox still has issues, neutral is a bitch. The bike will not get into neutral the majority of the time. It will also some times pop out of gear and go to neutral. Therefore the gearbox oil change has not been done since it will have to be taken apart.

                    alt text

                    License plate and rear light had broken off after a failed hill-climb. So a metal bar was bolted onto the rear to hold it all together.
                    alt text

                    alt text

                    Whilst I was in France dad decided he wanted a bike in France and found himself a 1982 XT125 in good condition. Bike starts well but suffers from carb and fueling issues which means it stalls when going uphill. It was a barn find though so it's going for renovation. So far I know the tyres will be replaced, carb and tank will go for a thorough cleaning and the forks need to be done up as they are leaking. Gearbox and engine feel very smooth so I don't expect any surprises but we'll see.

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                    @Minia It's looking sweet bud!

                    Yeah my Aprilia was like that, Neutral was located between every gear, if you didn't give it enough welly upshifting then you could end up in neutral, also the proper neutral was a nightmare to find lmao.

                    It's all looking good though.

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      Probably unrelated to your issues if Gas Gas are prone to having dodgy gearboxes, but I actually found this exact problem occurring with my CR 85 just after I rebuilt it last week. The gearbox was perfect before I stripped it though, so I had to split the cases a second time to find out what went wrong. Turned out when the cases were hot, the gearshift drum bearing had moved about 1mm or 2mm out of place, causing pressure on the main shaft / counter shaft.

                      As I say, could be unrelated but if you are going to split the cases, check all bearings are seated correctly as it's easy to overlook.

                      TDR 125 - 2001

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                      • MightymanM Mightyman

                        Probably unrelated to your issues if Gas Gas are prone to having dodgy gearboxes, but I actually found this exact problem occurring with my CR 85 just after I rebuilt it last week. The gearbox was perfect before I stripped it though, so I had to split the cases a second time to find out what went wrong. Turned out when the cases were hot, the gearshift drum bearing had moved about 1mm or 2mm out of place, causing pressure on the main shaft / counter shaft.

                        As I say, could be unrelated but if you are going to split the cases, check all bearings are seated correctly as it's easy to overlook.

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                        @Mightyman Hm, I'm not sure this could be the problem. My GasGas does run incredibly hot, but it does need quite some time for the engine to get hot. I don't remember feeling any difference whether the engine was cool or hot, but nonetheless better be wary. Thanks mate 🙂

                        Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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                        • MiniaM Minia

                          @Mightyman Hm, I'm not sure this could be the problem. My GasGas does run incredibly hot, but it does need quite some time for the engine to get hot. I don't remember feeling any difference whether the engine was cool or hot, but nonetheless better be wary. Thanks mate 🙂

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                          @Minia Sorry, I didn't mean when the engine was running. My bearing came out of place when I split the cases and heated them up to put in the new bearings. I was suggesting it could have been a previous owner the last time it was rebuilt perhaps?

                          TDR 125 - 2001

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                            @Minia GasGas build quality :(....

                            really good engines tho! Looking good.

                            Keep it real

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                              How much did you pay just out of interest?

                              I picked this up - 0_1492532456713_IMG_5733.JPG

                              Don't really know what gas gas model it is apart from being 320cc.

                              Bought it at 5pm for £400

                              Crashed it in the field at 6:30pm ripped the back off and bent the wheel.

                              Sold at half 7 to a guy that races them for £700.

                              lol not really sure what I had.

                              DT125R 2000
                              DRZ400 2006
                              Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                              • G gareth_iowc

                                How much did you pay just out of interest?

                                I picked this up - 0_1492532456713_IMG_5733.JPG

                                Don't really know what gas gas model it is apart from being 320cc.

                                Bought it at 5pm for £400

                                Crashed it in the field at 6:30pm ripped the back off and bent the wheel.

                                Sold at half 7 to a guy that races them for £700.

                                lol not really sure what I had.

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                                Minia
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                                @gareth_iowc Bought for 1400 euros, but needed a lot done to it. All in all, around 2,100 euros or so spent. But I'm perfectly happy with it, extremely solid and lightweight.

                                Your bike looks to me like an old Gasgas txt pro 320cc trials bike. Could be wrong.

                                Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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                                • G gareth_iowc

                                  How much did you pay just out of interest?

                                  I picked this up - 0_1492532456713_IMG_5733.JPG

                                  Don't really know what gas gas model it is apart from being 320cc.

                                  Bought it at 5pm for £400

                                  Crashed it in the field at 6:30pm ripped the back off and bent the wheel.

                                  Sold at half 7 to a guy that races them for £700.

                                  lol not really sure what I had.

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                                  @gareth_iowc 😂

                                  TDR 125 - 2001

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                                  • MiniaM Minia

                                    So I'm finally back, journey from hell. But anyways. I've fixed the main post and got the pictures working again. I got to see my lovely GasGas, forks are done and the entire electrical system was basically ripped out. Unfortunately I have no pictures but it was spaghetti everywhere, computer didnt work and the headlight and breaklights don't rely on it so they still work. However if someone plans on putting indicators back on it in the future I will be wishing them luck.

                                    Bike has been raised and suspension set to my height and weight.

                                    Gearbox still has issues, neutral is a bitch. The bike will not get into neutral the majority of the time. It will also some times pop out of gear and go to neutral. Therefore the gearbox oil change has not been done since it will have to be taken apart.

                                    alt text

                                    License plate and rear light had broken off after a failed hill-climb. So a metal bar was bolted onto the rear to hold it all together.
                                    alt text

                                    alt text

                                    Whilst I was in France dad decided he wanted a bike in France and found himself a 1982 XT125 in good condition. Bike starts well but suffers from carb and fueling issues which means it stalls when going uphill. It was a barn find though so it's going for renovation. So far I know the tyres will be replaced, carb and tank will go for a thorough cleaning and the forks need to be done up as they are leaking. Gearbox and engine feel very smooth so I don't expect any surprises but we'll see.

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                                    NINJA
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                                    @Minia Not very many of those XT's still around, she's in great nick too - good find there bud!!! 👍

                                    SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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