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Dtx Project Codename Moneypit

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  • CalumC Offline
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    Calum
    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    I know nev fitted one to his dtr. But I know his would have been a nice one.

    It is not about us, it's about your project.

    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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    • DartyD Offline
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      Darty
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      I run a YZ 250 throttle with a billet alloy throttle tube, so much nicer...

      Recomended.

      Keep it real

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      • CalumC Calum

        I know nev fitted one to his dtr. But I know his would have been a nice one.

        It is not about us, it's about your project.

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        Zrako
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        @Calum I was mainly asking about it because I am never heard of it and if anyone fitted one on his dt , if its any good and what is the experience like😊

        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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        • ZrakoZ Zrako

          @Calum I was mainly asking about it because I am never heard of it and if anyone fitted one on his dt , if its any good and what is the experience like😊

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          Calum
          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          @Zrako Ever ridden a crosser?

          Effectively you are only pulling the throttle a quarter turn before full chat.

          So you lose control of the throttle slider, but you are quicker to go Wipe Open Throttle.

          You would probably want spot on jetting, else risk bogging down.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • CalumC Calum

            @Zrako Ever ridden a crosser?

            Effectively you are only pulling the throttle a quarter turn before full chat.

            So you lose control of the throttle slider, but you are quicker to go Wipe Open Throttle.

            You would probably want spot on jetting, else risk bogging down.

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            Zrako
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @Calum never rided motocross bike ,so with this Im loosing a lot I think , its not really for the cruising and for the traffic as lot of sensitivity will compress in the 1/4 turn ?

            1979 Jawa Mustang 50
            2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
            2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
            2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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            • ZrakoZ Zrako

              @Calum never rided motocross bike ,so with this Im loosing a lot I think , its not really for the cruising and for the traffic as lot of sensitivity will compress in the 1/4 turn ?

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              Calum
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @Zrako It's not really an issue, but the original throttle is there to ease the power on and make it easier to just poot around with traffic for the novice rider. It wouldn't take long before you forgot how it was originally and got used to the quick throttle.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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              • DartyD Darty

                I run a YZ 250 throttle with a billet alloy throttle tube, so much nicer...

                Recomended.

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                tdr125greg
                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                @Darty would model year on the yz throttle matter?

                TDR125 🔥
                Put some respek on it! 😂

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                • ZrakoZ Offline
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                  Zrako
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

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                  The yz swingarm arrived today . Postman asked me why I am so happy lol.
                  Ehm. The fitment makes me a bit nervous there. Any ideas ?

                  1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                  2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                  2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                  2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                  • G Offline
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                    gareth_iowc
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                    #17

                    Yz one is not wide enough. Tried this myself 2 weeks ago and gave up on that idea

                    DT125R 2000
                    DRZ400 2006
                    Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                    • G gareth_iowc

                      Yz one is not wide enough. Tried this myself 2 weeks ago and gave up on that idea

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                      Zrako
                      wrote on last edited by Mightyman
                      #18

                      @chalkey46 Sir I need your help ☺
                      @gareth_iowc !

                      YZ Swingarm

                      This Sir did the job mate .

                      1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                      2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                      2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                      2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                      • CalumC Offline
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                        Calum
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                        #19

                        Anything is possible. No it's not a direct fit, but if it were then every joey would have done it.

                        The only reason I didn't do it, was because I spent many many nights lining up my supermoto wheels with my current setup, changing the arm, whilst trivial, would have undone all that work.

                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                        • ZrakoZ Offline
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                          Zrako
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          At first Im spotted the 2 problems I need to deal with : 1st - the linkage fitment is different
                          2nd - the brake bracket .
                          Wondering if the yz bracket will fit my caliper and line up properly with the disc 🤔

                          1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                          2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                          2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                          2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                          • CalumC Calum

                            Anything is possible. No it's not a direct fit, but if it were then every joey would have done it.

                            The only reason I didn't do it, was because I spent many many nights lining up my supermoto wheels with my current setup, changing the arm, whilst trivial, would have undone all that work.

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                            NINJA
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            @Calum Big respect to all Joey's!!! LOL 😉

                            SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                            • CalumC Offline
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                              Calum
                              wrote on last edited by Calum
                              #22

                              To do it properly you are going to need to realign the whole geometry of the bike.

                              With the new swingarm you are going to need the YZ brake carrier. Which will need modifiying to either accept your brake, or use the YZ brakes.

                              Either way the swingarm needs altering to fit between the frame and the engine.

                              This will cause the sprocket to be out of alignment with the rear sprocket, which is going to to cause undue stress to the gearbox bearings. This will need correcting by either shimming or machining.

                              You are then going to find the front and rear wheels are no longer in line. So this will need altering to ensure that the front and rear wheels are inline, and the front and rear sprockets are inline.

                              If you don't then you will find the bike will have a tendency to crab or to cause excessive damage to the gearbox.

                              This is why my front wheel is off centre from the forks. This was done to ensure the front and rear wheels line up perfectly, whilst maintaining the correct geometry for the front and rear sprockets.

                              I'm all for the swingarm conversion, but it sounds like you haven't thought this through enough?

                              If you're going to do, do it right. Is all I'm going to say.

                              It's just a case of measuring once, twice three times to be sure. This is the reason why I didn't use the alloy swingarm, AFTER I had already done all of this measuring.

                              I should have done it all at one time and saved myself the effort of measuring twice.

                              If any of that is unclear I am happy to go into more detail.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                              • CalumC Calum

                                To do it properly you are going to need to realign the whole geometry of the bike.

                                With the new swingarm you are going to need the YZ brake carrier. Which will need modifiying to either accept your brake, or use the YZ brakes.

                                Either way the swingarm needs altering to fit between the frame and the engine.

                                This will cause the sprocket to be out of alignment with the rear sprocket, which is going to to cause undue stress to the gearbox bearings. This will need correcting by either shimming or machining.

                                You are then going to find the front and rear wheels are no longer in line. So this will need altering to ensure that the front and rear wheels are inline, and the front and rear sprockets are inline.

                                If you don't then you will find the bike will have a tendency to crab or to cause excessive damage to the gearbox.

                                This is why my front wheel is off centre from the forks. This was done to ensure the front and rear wheels line up perfectly, whilst maintaining the correct geometry for the front and rear sprockets.

                                I'm all for the swingarm conversion, but it sounds like you haven't thought this through enough?

                                If you're going to do, do it right. Is all I'm going to say.

                                It's just a case of measuring once, twice three times to be sure. This is the reason why I didn't use the alloy swingarm, AFTER I had already done all of this measuring.

                                I should have done it all at one time and saved myself the effort of measuring twice.

                                If any of that is unclear I am happy to go into more detail.

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                                Zrako
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #23

                                @Calum yeah to be honest Im thought its lot easier than it really is and I havent the yz swingarm in the hand to get the measurements.
                                Definitely I have only 2 ways of doing this: properly or stock swingarm.

                                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                  gareth_iowc
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                                  #24

                                  I'm keeping the stock arm and swapping the wheel hubs over just to keep the project going ATM. I did like the idea of the yz wheel adjustment on the rear as it looks smarter than the dt 1

                                  DT125R 2000
                                  DRZ400 2006
                                  Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                                  • G gareth_iowc

                                    I'm keeping the stock arm and swapping the wheel hubs over just to keep the project going ATM. I did like the idea of the yz wheel adjustment on the rear as it looks smarter than the dt 1

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                                    Zrako
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #25

                                    @gareth_iowc are you on supermoto project as well?

                                    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                      Darty
                                      wrote on last edited by Mightyman
                                      #26

                                      Well I have seen quite a few DTRs with YZ250/WR400 swingarms. Doable.

                                      Custom linkage brackets, fabricated an welded...

                                      Complete YZ/WR rear end,, new chain/ possibly only a 520.

                                      A earlier style YZ/WR shock will only just clear the exhaust, and will need a custom spacer just to fit it into frame shock tower!

                                      This is a proper fabrication job.

                                      This was the very reason a WR200 swingarm was the ONLY choice for me.

                                      Keep it real

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                                        gareth_iowc
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                                        #27

                                        @zrako I'm sticking with off road but I want to use the 19" rear

                                        DT125R 2000
                                        DRZ400 2006
                                        Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                                        • CalumC Offline
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                                          Calum
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                                          #28

                                          Yeah if you wanted to do minimal fabrication then buy a YZ rear end and shock, this would minimise a lot of stuff.

                                          If I had a garage I would happily make these sorts of bits for people. But I am so tight for storage at the moment it simply is not possible!

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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