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Dtr 125 zeelectronic info

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  • DartyD Offline
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    Darty
    wrote on last edited by Darty
    #7

    Everybody forgets the Ignitech DCCDIP2.

    It's like £120. + their base-map provided is really good.

    Has a phenomenal spark.

    The difference is that Ignitech's run 12v directly from the battery, which is a bumber if you run a capacitor setup.

    I run 19 degrees base advance, nearly double what you find in a standard 3RM or older CDI.

    Easily 2-3hp gain with a light base tune.

    You can also adjust Powervalve duration and timing,. but standard settings work much better with standard 3MB port timing,

    Keep it real

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    • CalumC Offline
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      Calum
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      Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

      The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

      But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • CalumC Calum

        Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

        The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

        But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

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        Darty
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        #9

        @calum alt text

        Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

        I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

        Nothing against Zeeltronic,

        Keep it real

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        • Irongamer727I Offline
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          Irongamer727
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          #10

          So this gadget can alter the ignition timing? Why would Yamaha not use the best one? Or can the different settings be good for different reasons? So for example you can remap the bike when chasing too speed and remap it again when chasing aggressive acceleration? Please, explain it 😉

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            gareth_iowc
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            #11

            look good @Darty.

            do you have it up and running on your bike?

            DT125R 2000
            DRZ400 2006
            Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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            • DartyD Darty

              @calum alt text

              Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

              I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

              Nothing against Zeeltronic,

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              declan
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              #12

              @darty any links for a purchase bud?

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              • DartyD Darty

                @calum alt text

                Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                Nothing against Zeeltronic,

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                Calum
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                #13

                @darty Ah that's nice.

                Yeah I didn't really think about the price to be fair. As said, I got mine for £160 from Skellerns.

                @Irongamer727 Why would Yamaha not use the best one what?

                The bikes were limited to 15Kw power. They achieved thay easily, and therefore had no need to create an aggressive map.

                As said, aggressive maps are more prone to detonation, and therefore harder to tune for bikes to run all over the world without any modification.

                They also are more peaky, and therefore less tractable.

                But the maps on the RE are pretty sweet. Comes on nicely.

                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                • G gareth_iowc

                  look good @Darty.

                  do you have it up and running on your bike?

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                  #14

                  @gareth_iowc

                  https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

                  I finally made a mount for it,

                  @Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

                  It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

                  Keep it real

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                  • DartyD Darty

                    @gareth_iowc

                    https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

                    I finally made a mount for it,

                    @Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

                    It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

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                    Irongamer727
                    wrote on last edited by Irongamer727
                    #15

                    @darty where did you buy it?

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                      Irongamer727
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                      #16

                      Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

                      Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

                      Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

                      Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

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                      • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                        Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

                        Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

                        Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

                        Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

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                        declan
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                        #17

                        @irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

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                        • declanD declan

                          @irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

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                          Irongamer727
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                          @declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

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                          • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                            @declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

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                            @irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

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                            • declanD declan

                              @irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

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                              @declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

                              "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                              • terry.tzT terry.tz

                                @declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

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                                declan
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                                @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

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                                • declanD declan

                                  @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

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                                  @declan said in Dtr 125 zeelectronic info:

                                  @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

                                  Why not just use a standard 89/90 cdi there is no restriction at all in them and the bike will rev completely out and do the clock with the right gearing.

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                                    @declan said in Dtr 125 zeelectronic info:

                                    @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

                                    Why not just use a standard 89/90 cdi there is no restriction at all in them and the bike will rev completely out and do the clock with the right gearing.

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                                    terry.tz
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                                    @scrimsmustang can't imagine them being cheap

                                    "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                      so won't save much and there will be no servo control and kind of not plug and play I don't know just making the assumption

                                      "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                      • terry.tzT terry.tz

                                        so won't save much and there will be no servo control and kind of not plug and play I don't know just making the assumption

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                                        declan
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                                        #25

                                        @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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                                        • declanD declan

                                          @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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                                          @declan write to them yourself. Just Google ignitech and email them. They will answer in a matter of minutes!

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