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Took head off after breakdown

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  • CalumC Calum

    @Zrako It looks incredibly oily.

    I thought you said you rebuilt the engine sorry?

    It's hard to say what the problem is, although if it's lost gearbox oil, and oil was in the crank case and the piston is filthy, then it could have been the crank seal.

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    Zrako
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    @Calum yes I did rebuilt it like 3 months ago I think. Gonna get the seals and replace them soon . I have a spare mitaka piston , but both looks slightly different than the one before. Will post a pics tomorrow...

    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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    • ZrakoZ Zrako

      @Calum yes I did rebuilt it like 3 months ago I think. Gonna get the seals and replace them soon . I have a spare mitaka piston , but both looks slightly different than the one before. Will post a pics tomorrow...

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      Calum
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      @Zrako So what did you rebuild exactly? If you used old components then that might be the problem. I think they're only a couple of quid and for the sake of them I'd just replace them.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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        @Calum My bottom end bearing gone before so I got the new conrod and piston , got the crank rebuilt , used new gaskets and fasteners, new clutch plates and springs,installed kickstart ,new oil and waterless coolant... same big one pipe as I had before but in good condition... Thats it basically.

        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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        • ZrakoZ Zrako

          @Calum My bottom end bearing gone before so I got the new conrod and piston , got the crank rebuilt , used new gaskets and fasteners, new clutch plates and springs,installed kickstart ,new oil and waterless coolant... same big one pipe as I had before but in good condition... Thats it basically.

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          Calum
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          #11

          @Zrako what! And you didn't replace the crank seals? For the few quid and two seconds it takes?

          If the big end bearong went then it's likely that it took the seals with it. I would replace both of, which means splitting the cases unfortunately.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • CalumC Calum

            @Zrako what! And you didn't replace the crank seals? For the few quid and two seconds it takes?

            If the big end bearong went then it's likely that it took the seals with it. I would replace both of, which means splitting the cases unfortunately.

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            Zrako
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            #12

            @Calum well ,Im failed again then... never did it before but will remeber that for future. Ordered them now. Thanks for help

            1979 Jawa Mustang 50
            2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
            2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
            2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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            • ZrakoZ Zrako

              @Calum well ,Im failed again then... never did it before but will remeber that for future. Ordered them now. Thanks for help

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              Calum
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              @Zrako Let's hope this was the failure point.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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              • CalumC Calum

                @Zrako Let's hope this was the failure point.

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                Zrako
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                #14

                @Calum thinking about build it up again and give it to someone to check and tune it properly as Im lost confidence haha .

                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                • ZrakoZ Zrako

                  @Calum thinking about build it up again and give it to someone to check and tune it properly as Im lost confidence haha .

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                  Calum
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                  @Zrako Not really mate. It's so simple and we are here to help.

                  Literally it's the crank seals. Yoy gotta imagine that when the bearings went they would have gone for the softest part of the engine, whih is the seals.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  • CalumC Calum

                    @Zrako Not really mate. It's so simple and we are here to help.

                    Literally it's the crank seals. Yoy gotta imagine that when the bearings went they would have gone for the softest part of the engine, whih is the seals.

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                    #16

                    @Calum yeah , didnt thought about it as I think I checked them , silly mistake. Do you think I will need a new head gasket ? Im did the light skim as you made the tutorial for it , dont know how to identify if the head gasket is bad or reuseable...

                    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                    • ZrakoZ Zrako

                      @Calum yeah , didnt thought about it as I think I checked them , silly mistake. Do you think I will need a new head gasket ? Im did the light skim as you made the tutorial for it , dont know how to identify if the head gasket is bad or reuseable...

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                      Calum
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                      @Zrako Head Gaskets are not reusable.

                      My advice, don't take the head off, but I'm guessing it's too late for that now.

                      Athena head gasket is only a tenner.

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                        Zrako
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                        #18

                        Well , here we go again . 2nd rebuild . Now with new crank bearings and seals 🙄 , new piston and rings , new - used clutch , removed kickstart and got new used stay for the sprag clutch and installed starter motor, fresh gear oil.

                        https://youtu.be/b2MZ359Ag3g

                        Here is what it sounds like . First start was surprisingly smooth ,was idling bit higher so turned it down and bled autolube . Feel strange as it was maybe too good to be true lol .
                        Let me know what you think about the sound. Havent jump on it yet btw.

                        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                        • ZrakoZ Zrako

                          Well , here we go again . 2nd rebuild . Now with new crank bearings and seals 🙄 , new piston and rings , new - used clutch , removed kickstart and got new used stay for the sprag clutch and installed starter motor, fresh gear oil.

                          https://youtu.be/b2MZ359Ag3g

                          Here is what it sounds like . First start was surprisingly smooth ,was idling bit higher so turned it down and bled autolube . Feel strange as it was maybe too good to be true lol .
                          Let me know what you think about the sound. Havent jump on it yet btw.

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                          NINJA
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                          @Zrako Sounds like a 4 stroke with the airbox lid off. LOL

                          Great job tho!!! 👍

                          SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                            Zrako
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                            Well , brand new iridium br9eix after like 30 minutes idling. First 5 minutes was bleeding oil pump. Doesnt smoke too much . 🤕

                            1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                            2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                            2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                            2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                            • ZrakoZ Zrako

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                              Well , brand new iridium br9eix after like 30 minutes idling. First 5 minutes was bleeding oil pump. Doesnt smoke too much . 🤕

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                              Calum
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                              @Zrako A bit rich, but you won't really tell unless you do a plug chop.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                Zrako
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                                @Calum what exactly does that plug chop is ? Never heard that before

                                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                • ZrakoZ Zrako

                                  @Calum what exactly does that plug chop is ? Never heard that before

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                                  Calum
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                                  @Zrako http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/carb/plugchop.htm

                                  https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=plug+chop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=1eVrWaveI6fA8gf04rnACA

                                  Google my friend.

                                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                  • CalumC Calum

                                    @Zrako http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/carb/plugchop.htm

                                    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=plug+chop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=1eVrWaveI6fA8gf04rnACA

                                    Google my friend.

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                                    #24

                                    @Calum whoa . I need to get some standard plugs then . Thanks for help again

                                    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                    • ZrakoZ Zrako

                                      @Calum whoa . I need to get some standard plugs then . Thanks for help again

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                                      @Zrako my bikes clog up on idle give it a nice few revs to clear it out

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                                        Mightyman
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                                        Wow I have never actually read this up before. Always assumed a "plug chop" was running the bike for couple minutes, then visually inspecting the plug. Seems like a lot of effort / plug money to get it running perfect, but obviously worth it. Nothing better than a 2 stroke motor purring over perfectly. 👍

                                        TDR 125 - 2001

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                                          Calum
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                                          @Mightyman and you know what they say about assumptions.

                                          Oh my bad, seriously I thought it was common knowledge.

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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