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    Zrako
    wrote on 30 May 2017, 18:55 last edited by Zrako
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    @Calum My bottom end bearing gone before so I got the new conrod and piston , got the crank rebuilt , used new gaskets and fasteners, new clutch plates and springs,installed kickstart ,new oil and waterless coolant... same big one pipe as I had before but in good condition... Thats it basically.

    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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      Calum
      replied to Zrako on 30 May 2017, 19:46 last edited by
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      @Zrako what! And you didn't replace the crank seals? For the few quid and two seconds it takes?

      If the big end bearong went then it's likely that it took the seals with it. I would replace both of, which means splitting the cases unfortunately.

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        Zrako
        replied to Calum on 30 May 2017, 20:02 last edited by
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        @Calum well ,Im failed again then... never did it before but will remeber that for future. Ordered them now. Thanks for help

        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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          Calum
          replied to Zrako on 30 May 2017, 20:03 last edited by
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          @Zrako Let's hope this was the failure point.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            Zrako
            replied to Calum on 30 May 2017, 20:11 last edited by
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            @Calum thinking about build it up again and give it to someone to check and tune it properly as Im lost confidence haha .

            1979 Jawa Mustang 50
            2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
            2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
            2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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              Calum
              replied to Zrako on 30 May 2017, 20:17 last edited by
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              @Zrako Not really mate. It's so simple and we are here to help.

              Literally it's the crank seals. Yoy gotta imagine that when the bearings went they would have gone for the softest part of the engine, whih is the seals.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                Zrako
                replied to Calum on 30 May 2017, 20:30 last edited by
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                @Calum yeah , didnt thought about it as I think I checked them , silly mistake. Do you think I will need a new head gasket ? Im did the light skim as you made the tutorial for it , dont know how to identify if the head gasket is bad or reuseable...

                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                  Calum
                  replied to Zrako on 30 May 2017, 22:27 last edited by
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                  @Zrako Head Gaskets are not reusable.

                  My advice, don't take the head off, but I'm guessing it's too late for that now.

                  Athena head gasket is only a tenner.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    Zrako
                    wrote on 16 Jul 2017, 20:06 last edited by
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                    Well , here we go again . 2nd rebuild . Now with new crank bearings and seals 🙄 , new piston and rings , new - used clutch , removed kickstart and got new used stay for the sprag clutch and installed starter motor, fresh gear oil.

                    https://youtu.be/b2MZ359Ag3g

                    Here is what it sounds like . First start was surprisingly smooth ,was idling bit higher so turned it down and bled autolube . Feel strange as it was maybe too good to be true lol .
                    Let me know what you think about the sound. Havent jump on it yet btw.

                    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                      NINJA
                      replied to Zrako on 16 Jul 2017, 20:30 last edited by
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                      @Zrako Sounds like a 4 stroke with the airbox lid off. LOL

                      Great job tho!!! 👍

                      SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                        Zrako
                        wrote on 16 Jul 2017, 22:03 last edited by
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                        Well , brand new iridium br9eix after like 30 minutes idling. First 5 minutes was bleeding oil pump. Doesnt smoke too much . 🤕

                        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                          Calum
                          replied to Zrako on 16 Jul 2017, 22:06 last edited by
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                          @Zrako A bit rich, but you won't really tell unless you do a plug chop.

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                            Zrako
                            wrote on 16 Jul 2017, 22:13 last edited by
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                            @Calum what exactly does that plug chop is ? Never heard that before

                            1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                            2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                            2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                            2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                              Calum
                              replied to Zrako on 16 Jul 2017, 22:17 last edited by
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                              @Zrako http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/carb/plugchop.htm

                              https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=plug+chop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=1eVrWaveI6fA8gf04rnACA

                              Google my friend.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                Zrako
                                replied to Calum on 16 Jul 2017, 22:24 last edited by
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                                @Calum whoa . I need to get some standard plugs then . Thanks for help again

                                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                  declan
                                  replied to Zrako on 16 Jul 2017, 22:31 last edited by
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                                  @Zrako my bikes clog up on idle give it a nice few revs to clear it out

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                                    Mightyman
                                    wrote on 17 Jul 2017, 16:26 last edited by
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                                    Wow I have never actually read this up before. Always assumed a "plug chop" was running the bike for couple minutes, then visually inspecting the plug. Seems like a lot of effort / plug money to get it running perfect, but obviously worth it. Nothing better than a 2 stroke motor purring over perfectly. 👍

                                    TDR 125 - 2001

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                                      Calum
                                      wrote on 17 Jul 2017, 16:28 last edited by
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                                      @Mightyman and you know what they say about assumptions.

                                      Oh my bad, seriously I thought it was common knowledge.

                                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                        Zrako
                                        wrote on 18 Jul 2017, 19:47 last edited by
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                                        Completed the bike again 100% , 10 minutes warm up , took it on the street . Hardly powerband , valve moving properly but struggled . Tried to go between the gears hardly 3rd only sometimes . Impossible to shift , only with heel 😑. Took it apart again and tried to figure out whats going on. I think this is the problem.

                                        https://youtu.be/xqXsdSxaTwQ

                                        I think the sping is slacked. Found picture in the haynes

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                                        Did anyone experienced something like this?

                                        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                          andrewj1680
                                          wrote on 18 Jul 2017, 21:34 last edited by
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                                          My spring doesnt come up through the holes like yours does, the legs sit underneath the same as it does in the Haynes manual image

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