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Took head off after breakdown

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  • CalumC Calum

    @Zrako Let's hope this was the failure point.

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    Zrako
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    #14

    @Calum thinking about build it up again and give it to someone to check and tune it properly as Im lost confidence haha .

    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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    • ZrakoZ Zrako

      @Calum thinking about build it up again and give it to someone to check and tune it properly as Im lost confidence haha .

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      Calum
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      #15

      @Zrako Not really mate. It's so simple and we are here to help.

      Literally it's the crank seals. Yoy gotta imagine that when the bearings went they would have gone for the softest part of the engine, whih is the seals.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • CalumC Calum

        @Zrako Not really mate. It's so simple and we are here to help.

        Literally it's the crank seals. Yoy gotta imagine that when the bearings went they would have gone for the softest part of the engine, whih is the seals.

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        Zrako
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        #16

        @Calum yeah , didnt thought about it as I think I checked them , silly mistake. Do you think I will need a new head gasket ? Im did the light skim as you made the tutorial for it , dont know how to identify if the head gasket is bad or reuseable...

        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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        • ZrakoZ Zrako

          @Calum yeah , didnt thought about it as I think I checked them , silly mistake. Do you think I will need a new head gasket ? Im did the light skim as you made the tutorial for it , dont know how to identify if the head gasket is bad or reuseable...

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          Calum
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          #17

          @Zrako Head Gaskets are not reusable.

          My advice, don't take the head off, but I'm guessing it's too late for that now.

          Athena head gasket is only a tenner.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            Zrako
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            #18

            Well , here we go again . 2nd rebuild . Now with new crank bearings and seals 🙄 , new piston and rings , new - used clutch , removed kickstart and got new used stay for the sprag clutch and installed starter motor, fresh gear oil.

            https://youtu.be/b2MZ359Ag3g

            Here is what it sounds like . First start was surprisingly smooth ,was idling bit higher so turned it down and bled autolube . Feel strange as it was maybe too good to be true lol .
            Let me know what you think about the sound. Havent jump on it yet btw.

            1979 Jawa Mustang 50
            2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
            2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
            2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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            • ZrakoZ Zrako

              Well , here we go again . 2nd rebuild . Now with new crank bearings and seals 🙄 , new piston and rings , new - used clutch , removed kickstart and got new used stay for the sprag clutch and installed starter motor, fresh gear oil.

              https://youtu.be/b2MZ359Ag3g

              Here is what it sounds like . First start was surprisingly smooth ,was idling bit higher so turned it down and bled autolube . Feel strange as it was maybe too good to be true lol .
              Let me know what you think about the sound. Havent jump on it yet btw.

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              NINJA
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              @Zrako Sounds like a 4 stroke with the airbox lid off. LOL

              Great job tho!!! 👍

              SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                Zrako
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                #20

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                Well , brand new iridium br9eix after like 30 minutes idling. First 5 minutes was bleeding oil pump. Doesnt smoke too much . 🤕

                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                • ZrakoZ Zrako

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                  Well , brand new iridium br9eix after like 30 minutes idling. First 5 minutes was bleeding oil pump. Doesnt smoke too much . 🤕

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                  Calum
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                  #21

                  @Zrako A bit rich, but you won't really tell unless you do a plug chop.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    Zrako
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                    #22

                    @Calum what exactly does that plug chop is ? Never heard that before

                    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                    • ZrakoZ Zrako

                      @Calum what exactly does that plug chop is ? Never heard that before

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                      Calum
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                      @Zrako http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/carb/plugchop.htm

                      https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=plug+chop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=1eVrWaveI6fA8gf04rnACA

                      Google my friend.

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      • CalumC Calum

                        @Zrako http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/carb/plugchop.htm

                        https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=plug+chop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=1eVrWaveI6fA8gf04rnACA

                        Google my friend.

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                        Zrako
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                        #24

                        @Calum whoa . I need to get some standard plugs then . Thanks for help again

                        1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                        2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                        2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                        2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                        • ZrakoZ Zrako

                          @Calum whoa . I need to get some standard plugs then . Thanks for help again

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                          @Zrako my bikes clog up on idle give it a nice few revs to clear it out

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                            Mightyman
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                            Wow I have never actually read this up before. Always assumed a "plug chop" was running the bike for couple minutes, then visually inspecting the plug. Seems like a lot of effort / plug money to get it running perfect, but obviously worth it. Nothing better than a 2 stroke motor purring over perfectly. 👍

                            TDR 125 - 2001

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                              Calum
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                              @Mightyman and you know what they say about assumptions.

                              Oh my bad, seriously I thought it was common knowledge.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                Zrako
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                                Completed the bike again 100% , 10 minutes warm up , took it on the street . Hardly powerband , valve moving properly but struggled . Tried to go between the gears hardly 3rd only sometimes . Impossible to shift , only with heel 😑. Took it apart again and tried to figure out whats going on. I think this is the problem.

                                https://youtu.be/xqXsdSxaTwQ

                                I think the sping is slacked. Found picture in the haynes

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                                Did anyone experienced something like this?

                                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                  andrewj1680
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                                  My spring doesnt come up through the holes like yours does, the legs sit underneath the same as it does in the Haynes manual image

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                                    Zrako
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                                    #30

                                    Cant find the spring for sale . Just the new shaft 😓

                                    1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                    2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                    2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                    2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                      andrewj1680
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                                      I dont think you need a new spring you need to push the feet of the spring back through, the spring is pretty slack on all ive seen but not had any gear selection problems

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                                        andrewj1680
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                                          andrewj1680
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                                          Worse case its only £41+vat complete new

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