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    vtrn_raptor
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    Not just yet but I have a question what is the throttle needle for and can the position it's in cause a problem

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    • V vtrn_raptor

      Not just yet but I have a question what is the throttle needle for and can the position it's in cause a problem

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      @vtrn_raptor yes it can cause problems
      and it is another throttle stage for more fuel ie 1/2 to 3/4 throttle and

      "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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        So this could be my issue. The guy I brought the bike off had pinned the pv and have messed about with the carb to get it to run after changing the piston I realised their must have been an air leak somewhere on the bike as wouldn't stay running. I took the carb off to discover the mixture screw was seized so I replaced the carb the only thing I haven't done is touch the needle on the throttle and left it how I got the bike

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        • V vtrn_raptor

          So this could be my issue. The guy I brought the bike off had pinned the pv and have messed about with the carb to get it to run after changing the piston I realised their must have been an air leak somewhere on the bike as wouldn't stay running. I took the carb off to discover the mixture screw was seized so I replaced the carb the only thing I haven't done is touch the needle on the throttle and left it how I got the bike

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          @vtrn_raptor ok your better off do as @Calum said to you set the carb up as it was stock manual will have all the settings for you

          "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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          • V vtrn_raptor

            So this could be my issue. The guy I brought the bike off had pinned the pv and have messed about with the carb to get it to run after changing the piston I realised their must have been an air leak somewhere on the bike as wouldn't stay running. I took the carb off to discover the mixture screw was seized so I replaced the carb the only thing I haven't done is touch the needle on the throttle and left it how I got the bike

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            terry.tz
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            @vtrn_raptor but before you go tinkering as I said yesterday start from the top did you replenish the fuel

            "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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              vtrn_raptor
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              Yeah has fresh fuel in the bike now

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                Yeah has fresh fuel in the bike now

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                @vtrn_raptor have you checked I know this is silly and I know I'm contradicting myself but considering I think its rich but check anyway is the fuel flowing fine from tank to carb

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                  vtrn_raptor
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                  Yeah it is, is this In the correct position 0_1502564762654_image.jpg

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                    i think that is yes but you should check manual

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                      I've come to the conclusion something is wrong with the carb as wasn't having this problem with old carb but was running to lean that's the reason I got this one that's probably why I got the carb so cheap ..........

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                        Jens Eskildsen
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                        #100

                        My clip is in the middle, yours is a noth lower, which raised the needle, making it richer.

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                        • V vtrn_raptor

                          I've come to the conclusion something is wrong with the carb as wasn't having this problem with old carb but was running to lean that's the reason I got this one that's probably why I got the carb so cheap ..........

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                          terry.tz
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                          @vtrn_raptor have you documented the setting on the carb before you started playing with them

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                            The first carb couldn't check nothing as mixture screw was seized but with this one everything was set up how the Haynes said but looking at the carb compared to the old one theirs pipes missing it's got aftermarket hex screw holding the face on and what's worse is the kid I got it off kept his Dt and claimed the carb was a spare so was probably broke when I brought it can't really complain though only paid £25

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                              The first carb couldn't check nothing as mixture screw was seized but with this one everything was set up how the Haynes said but looking at the carb compared to the old one theirs pipes missing it's got aftermarket hex screw holding the face on and what's worse is the kid I got it off kept his Dt and claimed the carb was a spare so was probably broke when I brought it can't really complain though only paid £25

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                              terry.tz
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                              #103

                              @vtrn_raptor so why did you think it could be the needle then

                              "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                @vtrn_raptor so why did you think it could be the needle then

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                                declan
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                                @terry-tz might be missing something but given everyone is suing rich why didn't he adjust the needle to suit mine was lean and runs much better on the lowest needle clip?

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                                  you keep rushing into things and you're gonna be chasing your tail like a jim carrey nut job a long time before that bikes fixed

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                                    @terry-tz might be missing something but given everyone is suing rich why didn't he adjust the needle to suit mine was lean and runs much better on the lowest needle clip?

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                                    @declan personally I don't think he should even have it open yet but I'm no expert

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                                      terry.tz
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                                      also, it's showing symptoms of rich running from start up before needle and main jet so it probably not the needle anyways

                                      "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                        Calum
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                                        Needle clip position isn't going to make it run as rich as it is.

                                        Get that carb bog stock.

                                        Stlck needle, stock position, stock air screw stick idle speed.

                                        It's running way too rich, but at wide open throttle it is only the main jet that you are concerned with. So why even bother with the needle position when it is not running right at wide open throttle.

                                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                          Jens Eskildsen
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                                          The needle overlaps both bottom and top end, so will fuel height in the carb, verify that its stock.

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