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  • T TDRnoob

    Hello guys. If you could help me... Few months ago I bought my first bike TDR Belgarda 1990. I have done top end rebuild with newly refurbished cylinder kit from Germany. Testing after rebuild seemed a bit too much smoke. Well I was thinking thats ok as it is 2 stroke. So I have done 160 miles since rebuild and the engine stopped. I checked the spark plug(it was new), there was no spark and it was black covered in oil. I have replaced with an old spark plug and there is spark and engine starts. Checked the carb and air filter, seems fine. Checking the autolube but not sure if it is ok... I will upload video with engine sound. Any help for newbie. Thanks0_1502992236654_20170816_185006.jpg [0_1502992248231_20170816_191330.mp4](Uploading 100%)

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    @tdrnoob that does look like to much oil like

    "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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      @tdrnoob that does look like to much oil like

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      @terry-tz Thanks for reply. I will read manual about autolube and examine it.

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        Have you checked the markings on the oil pump all line up correctly?

        Good choice of bike btw 🙂

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          Have you checked the markings on the oil pump all line up correctly?

          Good choice of bike btw 🙂

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          TDRnoob
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          @nottsbiker It was a really old dream to get a 90s enduro like DT or TDR. 🙂 Happy, but I need to learn more about those 2 strokes. As I want to fix by myself. There is a video with my oil pump. Oil pump seems lined up correctly?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlMfqiuIErA

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            Mybelgarda oil pump failed and couldn't be adjusted. It just rinsed oil.

            I went premix in the end.

            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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              Jens Eskildsen
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              Right crank seal?

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              • CalumC Calum

                Mybelgarda oil pump failed and couldn't be adjusted. It just rinsed oil.

                I went premix in the end.

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                @calum So you just removed all 2 stroke oil from the tank and started to use premix?

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                  Right crank seal?

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                  TDRnoob
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                  @jens-eskildsen not sure. I need to investigate. And how to do that? Full engine rebuild?

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                    I did because the adjustments didn't seem to do anything. Never had any problems with my plugs mind you. Maybe I caught it before it got really bad.

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    • T TDRnoob

                      @calum So you just removed all 2 stroke oil from the tank and started to use premix?

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                      @tdrnoob said in TDR issue:

                      @calum So you just removed all 2 stroke oil from the tank and started to use premix?

                      Not quite but it is easy to blank off the injection system properly and you can even buy plates to cover the missing oil pump. If i remember correctly you also need to up jet by something like 5% to allow for the oil being in the fuel.

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                      • T TDRnoob

                        @jens-eskildsen not sure. I need to investigate. And how to do that? Full engine rebuild?

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                        @tdrnoob said in TDR issue:

                        @jens-eskildsen not sure. I need to investigate. And how to do that? Full engine rebuild?

                        Yes you'd have to strip the motor right down for those kind of checks but you could do a rebuild for maybe less than £500 including mains, crank, piston and rebore. This is a bit of a guess and with you doing the work yourself.

                        If you remember to loosen the clutch nut whilst the engine is in the bike you only need a flywheel puller to strip the motor down. If you want to save the crank and not have to rebuild then a set of casing splitters would be a good idea but you can make these as well.

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                          Not sure if it is just the video but your bike looks like it's in reasonable condition with the body work all complete. Mines in bits now awaiting a full rebuild as it looked like it had come from Afghanistan not Italy when i got it home.

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                            @tdrnoob said in TDR issue:

                            @jens-eskildsen not sure. I need to investigate. And how to do that? Full engine rebuild?

                            Yes you'd have to strip the motor right down for those kind of checks but you could do a rebuild for maybe less than £500 including mains, crank, piston and rebore. This is a bit of a guess and with you doing the work yourself.

                            If you remember to loosen the clutch nut whilst the engine is in the bike you only need a flywheel puller to strip the motor down. If you want to save the crank and not have to rebuild then a set of casing splitters would be a good idea but you can make these as well.

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                            @nottsbiker Thanks for advise. I have done top end rebuild with newly refurbished cylinder kit from Germany. Had a feeling that it is still something not right.

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                              Not sure if it is just the video but your bike looks like it's in reasonable condition with the body work all complete. Mines in bits now awaiting a full rebuild as it looked like it had come from Afghanistan not Italy when i got it home.

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                              TDRnoob
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                              @nottsbiker It came from France. About 25000 km on the clock.

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                                That looks lovely.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                  Only thing that looks wrong with the TDR compared to the DTR is how low the back end sits. I think that the shock is either shorter or the dog bones are different.

                                  Bike looks great btw 🙂

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                                    Only thing that looks wrong with the TDR compared to the DTR is how low the back end sits. I think that the shock is either shorter or the dog bones are different.

                                    Bike looks great btw 🙂

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                                    @nottsbiker that's beatiful I haven't seen a tdr that I truly like but that one is it

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                                      Nottsbiker
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                                      Yeah sorry dude that was a general comment not aimed at noobs TDR.

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                                        • 1 vote for red 😁
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                                        • NottsbikerN Nottsbiker

                                          @tdrnoob said in TDR issue:

                                          @calum So you just removed all 2 stroke oil from the tank and started to use premix?

                                          Not quite but it is easy to blank off the injection system properly and you can even buy plates to cover the missing oil pump. If i remember correctly you also need to up jet by something like 5% to allow for the oil being in the fuel.

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                                          @nottsbiker I was trying to search for these plates. Where did you see it? Could you please send me the link how it looks like.

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