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  • declanD Offline
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    declan
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    So your looking at around 260 for the complete set cdi and programmer it has a quick shifter setting so can I just plug it in and program the ignition to cut and have a quick shifter how would that work I’m assuming you would gear position sensors hooked up?

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    • CalumC Offline
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      Calum
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      That isn't going to work on the DT out the box, it'll depend on the other items being there first.

      Also, do Zeel do an ignition for the R, they originally only did it for the RE.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • CalumC Calum

        That isn't going to work on the DT out the box, it'll depend on the other items being there first.

        Also, do Zeel do an ignition for the R, they originally only did it for the RE.

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        declan
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        #3

        @calum not sure just says dt 125

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        • CalumC Offline
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          Calum
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          #4

          Well obviously various years run different looms

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • G Offline
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            gareth_iowc
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            #5

            as i need to build a loom i'm interested in this system.

            what are they like to setup for someone who has never used them?

            i'm not a complete novice as i work with winols but i'm not advanced either

            DT125R 2000
            DRZ400 2006
            Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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            • CalumC Offline
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              Calum
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              #6

              They give you a set of five maps to base yours on. So pick which ever one you feel performs the best. You can tweak it from there.

              As far as installation is concerned, it's plug and play.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                Darty
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                #7

                Everybody forgets the Ignitech DCCDIP2.

                It's like £120. + their base-map provided is really good.

                Has a phenomenal spark.

                The difference is that Ignitech's run 12v directly from the battery, which is a bumber if you run a capacitor setup.

                I run 19 degrees base advance, nearly double what you find in a standard 3RM or older CDI.

                Easily 2-3hp gain with a light base tune.

                You can also adjust Powervalve duration and timing,. but standard settings work much better with standard 3MB port timing,

                Keep it real

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                • CalumC Offline
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                  Calum
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                  #8

                  Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

                  The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

                  But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  • CalumC Calum

                    Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

                    The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

                    But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

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                    Darty
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                    #9

                    @calum alt text

                    Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                    I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                    Nothing against Zeeltronic,

                    Keep it real

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                    • Irongamer727I Offline
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                      Irongamer727
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                      #10

                      So this gadget can alter the ignition timing? Why would Yamaha not use the best one? Or can the different settings be good for different reasons? So for example you can remap the bike when chasing too speed and remap it again when chasing aggressive acceleration? Please, explain it 😉

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                        gareth_iowc
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                        #11

                        look good @Darty.

                        do you have it up and running on your bike?

                        DT125R 2000
                        DRZ400 2006
                        Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                        • DartyD Darty

                          @calum alt text

                          Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                          I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                          Nothing against Zeeltronic,

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                          declan
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                          #12

                          @darty any links for a purchase bud?

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                          • DartyD Darty

                            @calum alt text

                            Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                            I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                            Nothing against Zeeltronic,

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                            Calum
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @darty Ah that's nice.

                            Yeah I didn't really think about the price to be fair. As said, I got mine for £160 from Skellerns.

                            @Irongamer727 Why would Yamaha not use the best one what?

                            The bikes were limited to 15Kw power. They achieved thay easily, and therefore had no need to create an aggressive map.

                            As said, aggressive maps are more prone to detonation, and therefore harder to tune for bikes to run all over the world without any modification.

                            They also are more peaky, and therefore less tractable.

                            But the maps on the RE are pretty sweet. Comes on nicely.

                            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                            • G gareth_iowc

                              look good @Darty.

                              do you have it up and running on your bike?

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                              #14

                              @gareth_iowc

                              https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

                              I finally made a mount for it,

                              @Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

                              It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

                              Keep it real

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                                @gareth_iowc

                                https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

                                I finally made a mount for it,

                                @Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

                                It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

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                                Irongamer727
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                                @darty where did you buy it?

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                                  Irongamer727
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                                  Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

                                  Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

                                  Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

                                  Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

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                                    Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

                                    Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

                                    Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

                                    Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

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                                    declan
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                                    @irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

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                                      @irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

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                                      Irongamer727
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                                      #18

                                      @declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

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                                      • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                                        @declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

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                                        declan
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                                        @irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

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                                        • declanD declan

                                          @irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

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                                          @declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

                                          "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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