Dtr 125 zeelectronic info

declan

So your looking at around 260 for the complete set cdi and programmer it has a quick shifter setting so can I just plug it in and program the ignition to cut and have a quick shifter how would that work I’m assuming you would gear position sensors hooked up?

Calum

That isn't going to work on the DT out the box, it'll depend on the other items being there first.

Also, do Zeel do an ignition for the R, they originally only did it for the RE.

declan

@calum not sure just says dt 125

Calum

Well obviously various years run different looms

gareth_iowc

as i need to build a loom i'm interested in this system.

what are they like to setup for someone who has never used them?

i'm not a complete novice as i work with winols but i'm not advanced either

Calum

They give you a set of five maps to base yours on. So pick which ever one you feel performs the best. You can tweak it from there.

As far as installation is concerned, it's plug and play.

Darty

Everybody forgets the Ignitech DCCDIP2.

It's like £120. + their base-map provided is really good.

Has a phenomenal spark.

The difference is that Ignitech's run 12v directly from the battery, which is a bumber if you run a capacitor setup.

I run 19 degrees base advance, nearly double what you find in a standard 3RM or older CDI.

Easily 2-3hp gain with a light base tune.

You can also adjust Powervalve duration and timing,. but standard settings work much better with standard 3MB port timing,

Calum

Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

Darty

@calum alt text

Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

Nothing against Zeeltronic,

Irongamer727

So this gadget can alter the ignition timing? Why would Yamaha not use the best one? Or can the different settings be good for different reasons? So for example you can remap the bike when chasing too speed and remap it again when chasing aggressive acceleration? Please, explain it

gareth_iowc

look good @Darty.

do you have it up and running on your bike?

declan

@darty any links for a purchase bud?

Calum

@darty Ah that's nice.

Yeah I didn't really think about the price to be fair. As said, I got mine for £160 from Skellerns.

@Irongamer727 Why would Yamaha not use the best one what?

The bikes were limited to 15Kw power. They achieved thay easily, and therefore had no need to create an aggressive map.

As said, aggressive maps are more prone to detonation, and therefore harder to tune for bikes to run all over the world without any modification.

They also are more peaky, and therefore less tractable.

But the maps on the RE are pretty sweet. Comes on nicely.

Darty

@gareth_iowc

https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

I finally made a mount for it,

@Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

Irongamer727

@darty where did you buy it?

Irongamer727

Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

declan

@irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

Irongamer727

@declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

declan

@irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

terry.tz

@declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool