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      SpookDog last edited by

      Has anyone else ever had a super-smokey startup after being stood for a few weeks? The only thing that I can think of is that the two stroke oil must of siphoned into the reed block somehow.
      It cleared pretty quickly but freaked me out...

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      • Calum
        Calum last edited by Calum

        Rather have smoke than no smoke 🤣 Otherwise we're in trouble 😛

        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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        • declan
          declan last edited by

          fuel evaporates leaving just oil, also could be fuel leaking down into the bottom end via a dirty float needle

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            SpookDog last edited by

            This stuff freaked me out though. I was worried it was gearbox oil leaking past the o-ring! It was that heavy.
            I don’t think the oil sits high enough though, when it’s on the side stand?
            Weird Sheet!🌬☁️☁️☁️☁️

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            • markus.w
              markus.w @SpookDog last edited by

              @SpookDog i second what Declan said about fuel evaporating leaving a higher percentage of oil behind especially as it cleared so quick. Was going to say the same then realised Declan beat me to it. Good call sounds right to me. Usually good practice to turn off fuel tap and run engine until it runs out of fuel if you know it'll be standing for a few weeks. With my dtr I've found about 5-6 weeks to be the limit without starting before I have to strip carb and clean jets and that's using my usual Texaco super unleaded and Castrol power one so not cheap rubbish.

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              • declan
                declan @markus.w last edited by

                @markus-w my 4 strokes never gave me issue over the years but all my 2 strokes have hated fuel being in the bowl

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                • Calum
                  Calum @declan last edited by

                  @declan But the engines are manifold injected oil, not carb. So why would the carb have oil in it?

                  I only run V-Power and it's still an issue. I'd suspect dirty/sticky float and emptying the float by raking it up the road seems to sort it out a treat.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    SpookDog last edited by SpookDog

                    Yeah, I know. Plus I always turn my petrol off (sis’s carport🏍)
                    That’s why I thought that it was the 2/ oil ‘falling’ through. I know tzr’s Have a ball bearing and spring to stop flow without the pump working against it. Don’t know about the Dtr though...

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                    • declan
                      declan @Calum last edited by declan

                      @Calum massive oversight on my part forgot about injection 🤐,

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                        SpookDog last edited by

                        It’s definitely been gravity feeding the oil in. I left the pipe off with a noticeable air gap at the top (5mm). It’s right the way up to the top of the pipe now...
                        I can’t believe that I’m the only person that this has happened to. It might be shite watery 2/ oil though. It was in there when I got the bike...
                        Any suggestions on what and where to buy in bulk? A gallon, maybe?...

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                        • declan
                          declan @SpookDog last edited by

                          @SpookDog castrol is always good can usually get good bulk deals on it check ebay

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                          • Stevie Wonder
                            Stevie Wonder last edited by

                            I don’t know about anyone else but I always notice my bike smoke loads on start up, it’s not until she’s given a good Rev or ridden through powerband the first time that she coughs up a load of smoke then eases off and goes to normal
                            I’ve been told oil injected bikes are a known for being like that

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                            • markus.w
                              markus.w @declan last edited by

                              @declan i forgot about injection too but then mine is on premix.

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                              • declan
                                declan @Stevie Wonder last edited by

                                @Stevie-Wonder yeah that goes for all 2 strokes the oil doesent burn efficiently at lower temps so you need to clear their throats when they do warm up

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                                  SpookDog last edited by

                                  Since last night it’s filled up the air gap at the top of the tube and has a big ole drip on it. Not much but over the course of a week or two it adds up. Dunno why there isn’t a ball/spring one way valve like the Tzr?

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                                  • Calum
                                    Calum last edited by

                                    That doesn't sound right. I don't recall bubbles coming up on my oil feed.

                                    Regardless, it shouldn't make too much difference. So long as it doesn't make its way to the pump.

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                      SpookDog last edited by SpookDog

                                      I mean I took the pipe off that goes onto the inlet manifold, after the pump. The air was just from pulling it off. I Left it off overnight. It was higher than where it pushes on, not hanging down...

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                                        SpookDog @SpookDog last edited by

                                        WoW!...
                                        I emptied out the 2/ bottle and rebled the pump in last night with good oil. I put the small diameter clear pipe on that runs from pump to inlet, but I left it empty.
                                        Since last night it has risen 4inches just gravity feeding through the pipe!! I’m seriously thinking of getting a one way valve if possible. Anyone know of any purpose made bits? Before I search...

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                                          SpookDog @SpookDog last edited by

                                          Just found out an old pump and removed the oil out union, it’s a simple press fit. It DOES have a ball bearing and spring jobbie in it, the end of the spring had gathered a ‘plug’ of micro-lint, which was stopping the valve working properly. I’m guessing that the one that’s on the bike will be the same. I’ll soon see when I take off the pump for the umpteenth time!...

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                                            chris @SpookDog last edited by

                                            @SpookDog
                                            can you put pictures of that blocked valve up here?

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