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  • MightymanM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Mightyman
    #43

    It COULD have been triggered by you changing the gear oil.
    EDIT:
    Or possibly the old plates had already worn enough to somehow make the issue less prominent... Why did you change the clutch in the first place? Could you give the old bits a try just to confirm it's not the assembly that's incorrect?

    TDR 125 - 2001

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    • MightymanM Mightyman

      It COULD have been triggered by you changing the gear oil.
      EDIT:
      Or possibly the old plates had already worn enough to somehow make the issue less prominent... Why did you change the clutch in the first place? Could you give the old bits a try just to confirm it's not the assembly that's incorrect?

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      wrote on last edited by Ricky
      #44

      @Mightyman these are the old 1s I changed it because it wasn't going in gear and sometimes it would get stuck in gear so when I'd pull up it wouldn't shift up or down until i turned the engine off then it would move easy
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      DT 125X

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      • RickyR Ricky

        @Mightyman these are the old 1s I changed it because it wasn't going in gear and sometimes it would get stuck in gear so when I'd pull up it wouldn't shift up or down until i turned the engine off then it would move easy
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        #45

        @Ricky That's also consistent with a notched basket if I'm not mistaken.. Maybe your issue the whole time hasn't been the plates, but rather the basket. If the notches aren't too deep, try to file them down and see if it performs any better.

        TDR 125 - 2001

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        • CalumC Offline
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          #46

          It not going into gear could be a variety of things. Worn selector forks, bearings, clutch assembly, clutch springs.

          Sounds to me like the clutch isn't disengaging.

          Again what I said earlier will tell you it is clutch disengagement problem.

          Never heard of a worn basket on a dt before though. Maybe if it ran with no oil. My brother ran his dt gearbox on coolant and oil with no problems. So they are pretty well engineered.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • CalumC Calum

            It not going into gear could be a variety of things. Worn selector forks, bearings, clutch assembly, clutch springs.

            Sounds to me like the clutch isn't disengaging.

            Again what I said earlier will tell you it is clutch disengagement problem.

            Never heard of a worn basket on a dt before though. Maybe if it ran with no oil. My brother ran his dt gearbox on coolant and oil with no problems. So they are pretty well engineered.

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            #47

            @Calum I took it to the local bike garage he said it sounds like 1 or both of push rods and ball I've had the bike on its side trying to get them out bit they don't want to come out so I'm going to get a magnet see if that works

            DT 125X

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            • MightymanM Offline
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              #48

              I replaced mine as I thought they were the cause of a problem I had. Turned out they were fine and didn't have any effect on it. But worth a try for you I suppose!

              TDR 125 - 2001

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              • MightymanM Mightyman

                I replaced mine as I thought they were the cause of a problem I had. Turned out they were fine and didn't have any effect on it. But worth a try for you I suppose!

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                wrote on last edited by
                #49

                @Mightyman definitely worth a try get all 3 for £20

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                • MightymanM Offline
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                  #50

                  Do you have a picture of your clutch basket handy, just to rule that out?

                  TDR 125 - 2001

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                  • MightymanM Mightyman

                    Do you have a picture of your clutch basket handy, just to rule that out?

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                    #51

                    @Mightyman i will have later when i strip it again

                    DT 125X

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                    • CalumC Offline
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                      #52

                      Push rods and ball bearing. Sounds far fetched to me

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      • CalumC Calum

                        Push rods and ball bearing. Sounds far fetched to me

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #53

                        @Calum I'm going to strip it soon get the ball and rod out to check them and do some more adjustment

                        DT 125X

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                        • RickyR Offline
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                          #54

                          My ball had 2 flat sides so I've ordered a new 1

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                          • MightymanM Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by Mightyman
                            #55

                            Wow, hopefully it's your fix man!

                            TDR 125 - 2001

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                              #56

                              Hopefully 0_1485622564300_20170128_165352.jpg 0_1485622590831_20170128_165418.jpg 0_1485622643466_20170128_165433.jpg 0_1485622674961_20170128_165500.jpg

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                              • CalumC Offline
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                                #57

                                NORFE used to chop up some M6 bolts and use as a bearing....

                                Not sayinf that's good practice but was good enough for him.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                • CalumC Calum

                                  NORFE used to chop up some M6 bolts and use as a bearing....

                                  Not sayinf that's good practice but was good enough for him.

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                                  #58

                                  @Calum I've got some old bearings I was thinking of opening them up see if any are the same size the rods are ok

                                  DT 125X

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                                  • CalumC Calum

                                    NORFE used to chop up some M6 bolts and use as a bearing....

                                    Not sayinf that's good practice but was good enough for him.

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                                    @Ricky That doesn't look great lol.

                                    You can get the ball bearings off eBay for next to nothing..

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                    • CalumC Calum

                                      @Ricky That doesn't look great lol.

                                      You can get the ball bearings off eBay for next to nothing..

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                                      #60

                                      @Calum I've ordered 1 from yambits I was playing with the bearing idea as there can't be any difference surely

                                      DT 125X

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                                        I should not have thought so, but as said the correct ball can be had off eBay.

                                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                          #62

                                          Probably a daft question but with the bike off and my clutch pulled in should it freewheel or turn the engine over slightly when pushing it

                                          DT 125X

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