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  • DartyD Darty

    @declan No. Don't bother with carbon ones, I've never replaced the reeds, and they are originals from 2001'

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    declan
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    @Darty thank you.

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      Calum
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      In my opinion it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I fail to see how they could be detrimental. And if you want your bike to be maximum spec then it's another item to check off the list.

      Do they make a difference on their own. Uhhm no I don't think so.

      Do they make a difference when you are running ported barrels, bigger carbs and a rev limit of 20k, yeah of course they will. They are designed to stop reed flutter, that is tge reeds bouncing on the cage due to high pressure. That's what stiffer reeds are about.

      I bought them because I am somewhere in the middle and for the sake of 20 quid I wanted to protect against reed flutter. And that may never occur on factory reeds, but it might have. I just wanted to cover all angles.

      A comment was made earlier aboyt me passing judgement on opinions and not facts. You will find in even the most prestigious tuning books, a lot of it has to do with experience and opinions, because seldom does the theory work exactly the same.in practice due to the variety of factors. I have provided the theory, but in practice it may offer no benefit.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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        britshgigolo
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        i changed my reeds to the ebay crbon reeds and my fuel consumption has droped a lot on full tank so must be somthing in it

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        • CalumC Calum

          In my opinion it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I fail to see how they could be detrimental. And if you want your bike to be maximum spec then it's another item to check off the list.

          Do they make a difference on their own. Uhhm no I don't think so.

          Do they make a difference when you are running ported barrels, bigger carbs and a rev limit of 20k, yeah of course they will. They are designed to stop reed flutter, that is tge reeds bouncing on the cage due to high pressure. That's what stiffer reeds are about.

          I bought them because I am somewhere in the middle and for the sake of 20 quid I wanted to protect against reed flutter. And that may never occur on factory reeds, but it might have. I just wanted to cover all angles.

          A comment was made earlier aboyt me passing judgement on opinions and not facts. You will find in even the most prestigious tuning books, a lot of it has to do with experience and opinions, because seldom does the theory work exactly the same.in practice due to the variety of factors. I have provided the theory, but in practice it may offer no benefit.

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          @Calum Theory is one thing, it's about context more so. How do we practically apply theory with the ownership of a DT125R? It requires it's own logic.

          The knowledge of tuning, I've found is detrimental in most cases to this engine, because of it's design, the inlet tract length and Airbox still amaze me with the efficiency of it.

          It's hard to prove it's improved?

          It's an interesting point about our opinions. Practical experience is what we are here to explore.

          Debating theory is mere conjecture, and there is nothing wrong with that.

          After 4 years, I've yet to decide if I have really bettered the original version I started with 😂

          Good to see the forum growing , one love to all!

          Keep it real

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            andrewj1680
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            I also have hy-tech carbon reeds and I would say my bike is too thirsty for a 125 it goes through a full tank in no time at all probably just as thirsty as my mitsubishi evo 😂😂

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            • DartyD Darty

              @Calum Theory is one thing, it's about context more so. How do we practically apply theory with the ownership of a DT125R? It requires it's own logic.

              The knowledge of tuning, I've found is detrimental in most cases to this engine, because of it's design, the inlet tract length and Airbox still amaze me with the efficiency of it.

              It's hard to prove it's improved?

              It's an interesting point about our opinions. Practical experience is what we are here to explore.

              Debating theory is mere conjecture, and there is nothing wrong with that.

              After 4 years, I've yet to decide if I have really bettered the original version I started with 😂

              Good to see the forum growing , one love to all!

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              Calum
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              @Darty I wondered this mate. When I got my dt some 7 years ago I remember it being much quicker than it is now lol.

              But having ridden a bog standard one, I realise now that it is a lot quicker, but still slow.

              I mean really bad on fuel. I get about 100 miles to a tank of fuel. That would be a mix of thrashing it and taking it steady. That's pretty good hoing for a smoker.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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              • CalumC Calum

                @Darty I wondered this mate. When I got my dt some 7 years ago I remember it being much quicker than it is now lol.

                But having ridden a bog standard one, I realise now that it is a lot quicker, but still slow.

                I mean really bad on fuel. I get about 100 miles to a tank of fuel. That would be a mix of thrashing it and taking it steady. That's pretty good hoing for a smoker.

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                declan
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                @Calum well I'm hooked on my dt I was not expecting it to have that much power and speed but not only that but how smooth the gearbox is and how comfy the bike is I love it already.

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                • declanD declan

                  @Calum well I'm hooked on my dt I was not expecting it to have that much power and speed but not only that but how smooth the gearbox is and how comfy the bike is I love it already.

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                  Mightyman
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                  #17

                  @declan +1 for smooth gearbox and comfy riding.

                  TDR 125 - 2001

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                  • MightymanM Mightyman

                    @declan +1 for smooth gearbox and comfy riding.

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                    Calum
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                    #18

                    @Mightyman Aprilia box is hella notchy lmao.

                    DT is like a rifle action by comparison.

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      Zrako
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                      Oh I wish my gearbox is like yours 😃

                      1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                      2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                      2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                      2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                        Thought I would write an update from my previous post ^

                        It seems as though the 40km that was dropped from my tank must have been something of a 'bedding in' stage for these carbon fibre reeds, as I am getting normal fuel consumption again after cycling through another 5 - 10 tanks.

                        TDR 125 - 2001

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                          I literally never experienced this.

                          Weird.

                          What reeds did you go for bud?

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                          • CalumC Calum

                            I literally never experienced this.

                            Weird.

                            What reeds did you go for bud?

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                            Mightyman
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                            @Calum the carbon fibre Chao ones on eBay from Germany.

                            TDR 125 - 2001

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                            • CalumC Calum

                              I literally never experienced this.

                              Weird.

                              What reeds did you go for bud?

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                              declan
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                              @Calum sorry lads quick side questing connected my autolube up and ran the bike but no oil coming out do I need to bleed it or what?

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                              • declanD declan

                                @Calum sorry lads quick side questing connected my autolube up and ran the bike but no oil coming out do I need to bleed it or what?

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                                @declan yes you need to bleed the autolube mate. When Im rebuilt my engine , I ran on few litres of premix to bleed my pump. There is a rubber blind pipe with small clamp on . Let the bike idling and manually twist the pump pull-wheel with the small pipe off , I have transparent pipes so Im seen when it start coming to the inlet. Might not be best method but worked for me ...

                                1979 Jawa Mustang 50
                                2003 Gilera DNA 125 R.I.P
                                2015 Keeway TX 125 SM
                                2006 Yamaha DT 125 X

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                                • ZrakoZ Zrako

                                  @declan yes you need to bleed the autolube mate. When Im rebuilt my engine , I ran on few litres of premix to bleed my pump. There is a rubber blind pipe with small clamp on . Let the bike idling and manually twist the pump pull-wheel with the small pipe off , I have transparent pipes so Im seen when it start coming to the inlet. Might not be best method but worked for me ...

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                                  declan
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                                  @Zrako appreciate it I did the same as you only with no bleed valve I'll give it a go thank you.

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                                  • declanD declan

                                    @Zrako appreciate it I did the same as you only with no bleed valve I'll give it a go thank you.

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                                    @declan Once it's bled through that blind system then put the nipple back on and just ride the bike.

                                    Obviously run the bike with premix initially to just ensure you have oil in the engine.

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                    • CalumC Calum

                                      @declan Once it's bled through that blind system then put the nipple back on and just ride the bike.

                                      Obviously run the bike with premix initially to just ensure you have oil in the engine.

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                                      declan
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                                      @Calum it's working now bud thanks can you get v force reeds for the dt I just whooped some guys ass in a race but he said get some v force reeds and re jet

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                                      • declanD declan

                                        @Calum it's working now bud thanks can you get v force reeds for the dt I just whooped some guys ass in a race but he said get some v force reeds and re jet

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                                        @declan not only were all my reeds no good but my inlet manifold is completely screwed

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                                        • declanD declan

                                          @Calum it's working now bud thanks can you get v force reeds for the dt I just whooped some guys ass in a race but he said get some v force reeds and re jet

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                                          Calum
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                                          @declan Lol. V Force Reeds.

                                          It's more the V Force Reed block that you should be concerned with, and no you cannot.

                                          Shouldn't worry though it's not going to drastically change performance. So long as you have some carbon reeds or plastic then that'll suffice.

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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