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    Calum
    wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 15:56 last edited by
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    That isn't going to work on the DT out the box, it'll depend on the other items being there first.

    Also, do Zeel do an ignition for the R, they originally only did it for the RE.

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      23 Oct 2017, 15:56

      That isn't going to work on the DT out the box, it'll depend on the other items being there first.

      Also, do Zeel do an ignition for the R, they originally only did it for the RE.

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      declan
      wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 17:10 last edited by
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      @calum not sure just says dt 125

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        Calum
        wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 18:10 last edited by
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        Well obviously various years run different looms

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          gareth_iowc
          wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 19:17 last edited by
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          as i need to build a loom i'm interested in this system.

          what are they like to setup for someone who has never used them?

          i'm not a complete novice as i work with winols but i'm not advanced either

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          Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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            Calum
            wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 19:28 last edited by
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            They give you a set of five maps to base yours on. So pick which ever one you feel performs the best. You can tweak it from there.

            As far as installation is concerned, it's plug and play.

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              Darty
              wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 19:29 last edited by Darty
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              Everybody forgets the Ignitech DCCDIP2.

              It's like £120. + their base-map provided is really good.

              Has a phenomenal spark.

              The difference is that Ignitech's run 12v directly from the battery, which is a bumber if you run a capacitor setup.

              I run 19 degrees base advance, nearly double what you find in a standard 3RM or older CDI.

              Easily 2-3hp gain with a light base tune.

              You can also adjust Powervalve duration and timing,. but standard settings work much better with standard 3MB port timing,

              Keep it real

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                Calum
                wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 19:34 last edited by
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                Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

                The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

                But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

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                  23 Oct 2017, 19:34

                  Never heard of it, it's not as simple as a plug and play system.

                  The Zeeltronic gives you the ability to store more than one map, and select that map from the handlebar.

                  But for the money the Ignitech sounds bang on. Although that said, £260 is cheap for a remappable CDI

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                  Darty
                  wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 19:45 last edited by
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                  @calum alt text

                  Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                  I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                  Nothing against Zeeltronic,

                  Keep it real

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                    Irongamer727
                    wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 20:06 last edited by
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                    So this gadget can alter the ignition timing? Why would Yamaha not use the best one? Or can the different settings be good for different reasons? So for example you can remap the bike when chasing too speed and remap it again when chasing aggressive acceleration? Please, explain it 😉

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                      gareth_iowc
                      wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 20:17 last edited by
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                      look good @Darty.

                      do you have it up and running on your bike?

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                        23 Oct 2017, 19:45

                        @calum alt text

                        Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                        I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                        Nothing against Zeeltronic,

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                        declan
                        wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 20:30 last edited by
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                        @darty any links for a purchase bud?

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                          23 Oct 2017, 19:45

                          @calum alt text

                          Literally plugs and play. Provided, you do need a laptop..and a good idea of what your actually doing.

                          I think your all mad spending nearly £300 on a Zeel system with programmer, on a DTR125 none the less, only to then have equipment you wont quite understand.

                          Nothing against Zeeltronic,

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                          Calum
                          wrote on 23 Oct 2017, 21:41 last edited by
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                          @darty Ah that's nice.

                          Yeah I didn't really think about the price to be fair. As said, I got mine for £160 from Skellerns.

                          @Irongamer727 Why would Yamaha not use the best one what?

                          The bikes were limited to 15Kw power. They achieved thay easily, and therefore had no need to create an aggressive map.

                          As said, aggressive maps are more prone to detonation, and therefore harder to tune for bikes to run all over the world without any modification.

                          They also are more peaky, and therefore less tractable.

                          But the maps on the RE are pretty sweet. Comes on nicely.

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                            23 Oct 2017, 20:17

                            look good @Darty.

                            do you have it up and running on your bike?

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                            Darty
                            wrote on 24 Oct 2017, 11:34 last edited by
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                            @gareth_iowc

                            https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

                            I finally made a mount for it,

                            @Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

                            It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

                            Keep it real

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                              24 Oct 2017, 11:34

                              @gareth_iowc

                              https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/77/yamaha-dt125r-01-running-project/86

                              I finally made a mount for it,

                              @Irongamer727 Yamaha's ignition curve is for low octane fuel range, reliability, low end torque and wide efficiency.

                              It is one of the most limiting factors of the engine,

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                              Irongamer727
                              wrote on 24 Oct 2017, 12:22 last edited by Irongamer727
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                              @darty where did you buy it?

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                                Irongamer727
                                wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 09:26 last edited by
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                                Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

                                Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

                                Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

                                Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

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                                  26 Oct 2017, 09:26

                                  Allright, I have spoken to both the zeeltronic company and the ignitech company. Both come with contacts and everything is plug and play. Both are programmable. However, I don't see the reason why you would go for the zeeltronic instead of the ignitech.

                                  Ignitech prize plus connectors~170 €

                                  Zeeltronic including connectors and some program ~ 300€

                                  Ignitech seems like the obvious choice to me

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                                  declan
                                  wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 10:27 last edited by
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                                  @irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

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                                    26 Oct 2017, 10:27

                                    @irongamer727 so let’s just get this right I buy igni set it up then just plug it in to my dtr straight fit no bullshit?

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                                    Irongamer727
                                    wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 10:37 last edited by
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                                    @declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

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                                      26 Oct 2017, 10:37

                                      @declan seems like it. It's suppost to come with some base map but I have no clue how that is.

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                                      declan
                                      wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 10:46 last edited by
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                                      @irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

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                                        26 Oct 2017, 10:46

                                        @irongamer727 I think darty said it worked really good

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                                        terry.tz
                                        wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 12:51 last edited by
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                                        @declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

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                                          26 Oct 2017, 12:51

                                          @declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

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                                          declan
                                          wrote on 26 Oct 2017, 14:24 last edited by
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                                          @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

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