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  • K kylescave

    So i have been building two DT 125r's for a while now. However they both seem to have up and down movement in the swing arm. I'm struggling to find a bearing kit that i'm certain would fit.

    Any help or advice would be appreciated.

    when on a stand the swing arm will move about 3-5 mm up and down. I'm sure this would fail an MOT so want to get it sorted ASAP so i can sell it.

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    SpookDog
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    @kylescave

    You mean at the frame/swingarm bolt?! That sounds beyond wear. I’d check the bolt is the proper size...

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    • K kylescave

      So i have been building two DT 125r's for a while now. However they both seem to have up and down movement in the swing arm. I'm struggling to find a bearing kit that i'm certain would fit.

      Any help or advice would be appreciated.

      when on a stand the swing arm will move about 3-5 mm up and down. I'm sure this would fail an MOT so want to get it sorted ASAP so i can sell it.

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      DTR+NSR
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      @kylescave there's a needle bearing and sleeve, where the swingarm pivots on the frame bolt. Pretty sure its a common size bearing, possibly 22x28x20mm but don't hold me to that.

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        Calum
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        @dtr-nsr Bearing sizes should be on this forum somewhere.

        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          @kylescave

          You mean at the frame/swingarm bolt?! That sounds beyond wear. I’d check the bolt is the proper size...

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          kylescave
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          @SpookDog No i do not think it is the swingarm bolt. From what i can see its moving from the rear shock linkage. I'm not sure of the name. Wishbone? Dogbone? So i believe its the bearings or sleeves in that.

          But both my Dt's have this issue otherwise i would have swapped the part for now.

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            @kylescave there's a needle bearing and sleeve, where the swingarm pivots on the frame bolt. Pretty sure its a common size bearing, possibly 22x28x20mm but don't hold me to that.

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            kylescave
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            @DTR-NSR I've changed the sleeve bearing that the swing arm bolt goes through if that's what you mean. But i think the movement is coming from the rear shock linkage. where it bolts onto the swing arm? Or is that what you meant.

            I was going to replace the bearings/sleeve in that link however im struggling to find a kit.

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            • K kylescave

              @DTR-NSR I've changed the sleeve bearing that the swing arm bolt goes through if that's what you mean. But i think the movement is coming from the rear shock linkage. where it bolts onto the swing arm? Or is that what you meant.

              I was going to replace the bearings/sleeve in that link however im struggling to find a kit.

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              Calum
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              @kylescave Should still be able to get these parts from Yamaha

              90387-164U8 - Part number for the collars

              I'd grab genuine collars then get the bearings from SimplyBearings.co.uk

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                @kylescave Should still be able to get these parts from Yamaha

                90387-164U8 - Part number for the collars

                I'd grab genuine collars then get the bearings from SimplyBearings.co.uk

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                kylescave
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                @Calum Okay sounds good, any chance you know the bearing size or can direct me to where i can find them? Many thanks.

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                • K kylescave

                  @Calum Okay sounds good, any chance you know the bearing size or can direct me to where i can find them? Many thanks.

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                  Calum
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                  @kylescave The bearings will have markings on them that you can use for reference. Simplybearings.co.uk will have them, that's where I got them from.

                  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112551533577

                  But someone is selling them on eBay for £20

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                  • CalumC Calum

                    @kylescave The bearings will have markings on them that you can use for reference. Simplybearings.co.uk will have them, that's where I got them from.

                    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112551533577

                    But someone is selling them on eBay for £20

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                    kylescave
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                    @Calum Aren't those the swing arm bearings though? They are the ones I've replaced. Or is it possible that the linkage uses the same bearing.

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                    • K kylescave

                      @Calum Aren't those the swing arm bearings though? They are the ones I've replaced. Or is it possible that the linkage uses the same bearing.

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                      Calum
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                      @kylescave No sorry, they were the swinging arm bearings.

                      I vaguely remember doing them on mine. But I can't recall what the sizes were. Just press them out and get the part number from them

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                        @kylescave No sorry, they were the swinging arm bearings.

                        I vaguely remember doing them on mine. But I can't recall what the sizes were. Just press them out and get the part number from them

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                        kylescave
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                        @Calum Alright no worries, I'll give that a go. Thanks for the advice.

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                          @Calum Alright no worries, I'll give that a go. Thanks for the advice.

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                          @kylescave

                          Do a search for :
                          ‘Yamaha DT125R rear suspension linkage repair kit’

                          It’s not cheap (@ £110) but once done and properly maintained it should last forever. Nobody greases up the nipples on these! That’s why they fail...

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                            @spookdog that and by this point they are like a million years old

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                              I've collected all the parts to do the swingarm on my TDR (basically a DTR) from Yamaha / Wemoto and they were horrendously expensive. Bet its cost something daft like two hundred quid or even more for the 125 bits.

                              Strange then that All Balls make a kit for my DT200WR that includes everything across a couple of kits for around a hundred quid!

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                                I've collected all the parts to do the swingarm on my TDR (basically a DTR) from Yamaha / Wemoto and they were horrendously expensive. Bet its cost something daft like two hundred quid or even more for the 125 bits.

                                Strange then that All Balls make a kit for my DT200WR that includes everything across a couple of kits for around a hundred quid!

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                                SpookDog
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                                @Nottsbiker

                                Most stolen bike in the UK tax!...

                                If you checked the sizes I bet most bits are the same. The 200 does have an ally swing arm though, no?...

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                                  @Nottsbiker

                                  Most stolen bike in the UK tax!...

                                  If you checked the sizes I bet most bits are the same. The 200 does have an ally swing arm though, no?...

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                                  @SpookDog yes the 200wr has an aluminum swingarm but so does my 125r (got a dt200r one) and I bet you are correct that loads of bits are the same.

                                  Oddly though the the 200 is narrower than the 125 with the linkage mount a different distance from the pivot so would not be a direct swap either

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