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Whats a good carburetor for my DT125 with a 170cc athena cylinder kit?

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  • clawsC claws

    @Calum getting the keihin for 60 euros isnt a bad deal besides the screws for the carburetor are seized so i cant mess with the float or jets. also i can just sell the carb if i need to. im not an expert at tuning carbs but i can make it run ok

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    Calum
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    @claws It needs to run spot on, is my point. Even the new carb will need jetting.

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    • CalumC Calum

      @claws It needs to run spot on, is my point. Even the new carb will need jetting.

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      @Calum said in Whats a good carburetor for my DT125 with a 170cc athena cylinder kit?:

      @claws It needs to run spot on, is my point. Even the new carb will need jetting.

      I second that

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      • CalumC Calum

        @claws It needs to run spot on, is my point. Even the new carb will need jetting.

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        @Calum gonna get it running great. better than with the original carb

        2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
        1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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        • clawsC claws

          @Calum gonna get it running great. better than with the original carb

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          @claws That's great to hear! I know from experience going too big is detrimental. But maybe I didn't spend enough time tweaking it!

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            @claws That's great to hear! I know from experience going too big is detrimental. But maybe I didn't spend enough time tweaking it!

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            @Calum wouldnt be making any sense to not get it running great. gonna send a video of it running later

            2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
            1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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            • clawsC claws

              @Calum wouldnt be making any sense to not get it running great. gonna send a video of it running later

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              @claws alt text

              Not to sound boring, but, Keihin PWK 36mm of a KDX220

              Been there done that, mental, makes no sense. Actually slower overall..

              A 32mm can be spot on, if you like to 'hoon' constantly, but these engines are fussy to jet on a bigger carb, I don't recommend it.

              Keep it real

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              • DartyD Darty

                @claws alt text

                Not to sound boring, but, Keihin PWK 36mm of a KDX220

                Been there done that, mental, makes no sense. Actually slower overall..

                A 32mm can be spot on, if you like to 'hoon' constantly, but these engines are fussy to jet on a bigger carb, I don't recommend it.

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                @Darty Long time no post 😛

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                • DartyD Darty

                  @claws alt text

                  Not to sound boring, but, Keihin PWK 36mm of a KDX220

                  Been there done that, mental, makes no sense. Actually slower overall..

                  A 32mm can be spot on, if you like to 'hoon' constantly, but these engines are fussy to jet on a bigger carb, I don't recommend it.

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                  @Darty cant be slower than now though

                  2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
                  1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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                  • clawsC claws

                    @Darty cant be slower than now though

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                    @claws You'd be surprised.

                    I'm not going into the specifics.

                    But Pressure=force/area

                    The force is generated via the vacuum of the engine, the area is the size of the carb.

                    If the carb increases sizes, but the vacuum remains the same then you will see a drop in pressure. Aka, the pressure to actuate the carb will lower and it may not be as effective, sine the carb works off the venturi effect, getting this balance right is important. Going too big can have adverse affects. Is 36mm too big? I'm not saying that, I'm just saying bigger is not always better.

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    • CalumC Calum

                      @claws You'd be surprised.

                      I'm not going into the specifics.

                      But Pressure=force/area

                      The force is generated via the vacuum of the engine, the area is the size of the carb.

                      If the carb increases sizes, but the vacuum remains the same then you will see a drop in pressure. Aka, the pressure to actuate the carb will lower and it may not be as effective, sine the carb works off the venturi effect, getting this balance right is important. Going too big can have adverse affects. Is 36mm too big? I'm not saying that, I'm just saying bigger is not always better.

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                      @Calum of course a bigger carburetor isnt always better but i dont think that i can go slower with the keihin and if i cant get it to run great with the bike i will trade it for a smaller one. but a guy that i know put a 38mm carb in his 1998 dt125r and said that it runs great. still i believe that the new carburetor will out perform the one i have now but if it doesnt i will be a bit disappointed but anyways i wont lose anything with this new carb

                      2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
                      1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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                        Oh yeah! Report back to us your findings 😃

                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                        • clawsC claws

                          @Darty cant be slower than now though

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                          @claws True, but don't forget you'll make less power under 6-8k Rpm.

                          @Calum lol I don't have much to say about these bikes anymore

                          Keep it real

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                            @claws True, but don't forget you'll make less power under 6-8k Rpm.

                            @Calum lol I don't have much to say about these bikes anymore

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                            @Darty doesnt matter. it doesnt have much torque in the lower rpms but its because my ypvs is locked to the up right position. gonna get it resolved as well and maybe get an athena pipe for the bike since its made for the 170cc cylinder kit

                            2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
                            1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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                              Jetting a none standard carb on a DT is a ballache, 32mm polini pwk didn't make my DT much faster at all without any supporting mods like ignition etc. The fuel usage was well over double too even with both carbs appropriately jetted.

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                              • DartyD Darty

                                @claws True, but don't forget you'll make less power under 6-8k Rpm.

                                @Calum lol I don't have much to say about these bikes anymore

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                                @Darty Join the club. But most of us talk about different projects these days.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                • DartyD Darty

                                  @claws True, but don't forget you'll make less power under 6-8k Rpm.

                                  @Calum lol I don't have much to say about these bikes anymore

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                                  @Darty we kinda miss ya around here

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                                  • DartyD Darty

                                    @claws True, but don't forget you'll make less power under 6-8k Rpm.

                                    @Calum lol I don't have much to say about these bikes anymore

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                                    @Darty Which bikes are you currently working on/involved with ATM then dude???

                                    SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                                    • CalumC Calum

                                      @Darty Join the club. But most of us talk about different projects these days.

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                                      @Calum okay so the carb made the dt much better. didnt even have to tune it lol

                                      2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
                                      1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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                                        and i flipped the bike while doing a wheelie today. bent my front forks and got the rear plastic banged up. getting new ones tomorrow though

                                        2̶0̶0̶4̶ ̶D̶T̶1̶2̶5̶R̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶1̶7̶0̶c̶c̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶t̶
                                        1999 YZ250 with a 1999 DTR VIN

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