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  • Dt125 RE DE06 no spark

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    I've got an update. It's been a while since I've got a new stator but there is some inconcistencies in the service manual. Before I mentioned that the resistances reading match the manual. But that's regarding the values mentioned in the troubleshooting section. I'm referring to page 8-11 in the ignition section point 7. source coil resistance. There they mention 192-288 ohms which was where my old coil was within. That's over both source coils if I'm not mistaken. However the new coil has different resistances. And those actually match the values in the manual on page 2-8 general specifications - CDI source coil. There they specify both resistances: 730 and 600 ohms +-20%. So it seems there is an issue in the manual but also my old stator matches the troubleshooting value and the new one the ones in the general specifications... Regarding the old measurements. It turned out that the voltage in the traces above are the same for the two coils in series as well as for the small one alone. The big one actually outputs 0V so there is definitely a short under load in the bigger coil. Regarding the new coil. I measured both independent and I got a sine wave with 90Vpp (peak peak) for the smmall and for the bigger one around 460Vpp. So way more than before. If anyone is interested in the scope traces I can upload them as well. So I decided to just give it a try and it worked just fine and I've got spark again!! Buuuuuut.. the first test run, after roughly 50km I lost the spark again. Turned out that the stator got that hot that the solder liqifyed and all the cables detached from the source coil.. Also the stator tooth touched the flight wheel at some point since I saw some scratches. So I thought that's the cause why it overheated. So adjusted everything a bit and resoldered the cables and it worked for some time now without scratching and overheating. Until yesterday.. after some time going up hill the bike just turned off again and barely started again. I just made it home. Today I've checked it again and one cable was again detached from the coil. Now I'm thinking if the overheating was the root cause all the time which might also destroyed the old coil. But this leads me to the question what could cause this overheating. Could it be that the engine generally runs too hot? Does anyone have a clue what it could be?
  • Dt125re progress

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    Update: it now works, adjusted the timing a bit. Helped and do not know why it worked now since ive tried before and upto no progress then. It idles decent but it only runs nice with the choke on. Without choke on it runs like ass. Ive just fixed all the intake manifold gaskets and made it way better so no airleak. Changed the crankshaft seal and that also should be very very minimal. Not sure where else it could leak air
  • Please help! Dtre 07 not working properly?

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    They say it's mechanical but the description sounds electrical and they're adamant it's not I still maintain it's electrical related, ignition timing, static angle, etc. But I am not familiar with the ignition system they're running and/or how it's been wired together
  • Dtre 125 electric start wont work

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    That's right, I forgot about the clutch switch!
  • The Leviathan Project

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  • BIke cant get started

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    Could be a lot of things.. but everything is probably not as it should be if it's not starting.. What I can think of: -Leaky crank seals -Damaged/leaking reed/intake -Carb issue -Ignition angle off (flywheel key?) Is the spark plug wet? Is there a good suction pulse from the carb when kicking it? With some experience you can feel it if you cover the carb with your hand on full throttle while kicking/cranking the engine. It should not blow, only suck, and the pulse should be 'strong enough'. Old fuel can make it hard to start too.
  • ‘89 DTRE NO SPARK!!

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    HOTSHOT IIIH
    @Calum @raceraidan Interesting thread. I once owned a 1998 DT125RE French import which looked identical to a DT125R the same year (pic 1). It had a larger battery and separate toolikt compartment as well as the electric start wiring. [image: alt text] During this time I was fortunate enough to source a Yamaha service manual for this exact model, I still have this and here are some pictures of the wiring diagram. I believe KTM also used this engine/electrical platform for the LC2 125 which they sold a lot of in Germany (I bought 2 or 3 3MB CDI units marked LC2 125 from German breakers, and also some NIP 3MB YPVS servos which had both the Yamaha and KTM part numbers on the packaging (sadly now all sold). During my ownership I tried all these items on the bike and they all just plugged into the loom (same connectors) and worked. I'm pretty certain the (inverted) flywheel and stator were both stamped 3MB. As you can see this model also has a clutch switch which IIRC, with the clutch pulled in, allows you to start the engine in gear even with the sidestand down, but cuts the ignition when you let out the clutch to try and pull away. If you've already looked at the sidestand switch I'd locate this and give it a dose of WD40 etc. as a starting point. Also the two relays (items 12 and 13) are worth a look although I'm not sure how you'd go about testing these. It might be of some help to just get some more and plug them in and try them. Here's a link to the KTM parts fiche; search Google/eBay etc. for the KTM part numbers as well as Yamaha France and you might get lucky with a European breaker as they can be quite diligent with posting up used parts for sale including the original numbers: https://www.trevorpopemotorcycles.co.uk/index.php?main_page=ktm_fiche_finder https://ypec-sss.yamaha-motor.co.jp/ypec/ypec/b2c/html5/app/en_GB/parts-search/index.html?ver=bd30d8f2-88bf-45bf-81ba-b46167a61f3c Here are some pics of the wiring diagram, not sure if the Gilera SC125 used the same electrical platform but hope this helps: [image: alt text] [image: alt text] [image: alt text]
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  • WHERE Do i find a kickstart

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    https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/13/kick-start-conversion-dtre
  • Dtr125re 2006 randomly stopped working

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    Yeah looks like it's in need of some TLC. When the bikes in neutral all the lights should be on. As I say, that bike looks like it's got a lot of issues and working through those by restoring it to factory is what I'd do.
  • Yamaha DT 125 RE carburetor swap.

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    I see you also recomended me the Zeeltronic. I'll make some research about it. The main problem for this bike at least in Spain (where I'm from) is that there's not really any market for it, and it's a shame really. I saw the carburetor as the "accesible small powering piece". I just dont want to change the cylinder or big things like that, just a small thing to change the performance of the bike without going for too much, just a little push. If Mikuni is good brand then i'll search for a 32 Mikuni to keep the line of being always equiped with Mikuni. I bought the bike with a Gianelli exhaust with homologation. I see almost every DT with installed Arrow, DEP, Turbokit or Gianelli exhausts kits. It's the only aftermarket thing installed to it. Now before changing carburetor or anything else, I need to fix the regulator, alternator and battery, and then i'll see. I see you're also pretty close with the bike, and very aknowledged about it. I really aprecciate the advice you're giving me.
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  • 2005 dt125RE

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  • Wheels

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    HOTSHOT IIIH
    How local are you to Dorset? Buy mine. Respoked/new bearings 2000 miles ago, nearly new tyres disc rotors and pads, ready to bolt straight in: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266386635256
  • Brake disk upgrades

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  • Dt125re

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    @Calum I think it was £45 but it must have been about 10 years ago. Not a DT either it was a vfr400r nc30 that stopped charging the battery. They must know their stuff about motorcycle stators as I found the advert in the back of MCN. Also they claim to have most models on the shelf ready to exchange for quick turnaround.
  • DTR stator plate

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    Looks like I have the same stator set up I got a dtre engine missing the stator so I fitted the spare I had from what I believe is an old tzr125 it's the 3 coil one with the matching flywheel then took the spragg clutch off the back of the X flywheel and it's a direct fit onto the "tzr" flywheel
  • '07 DTRE odometer knob

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    @350_2stroker PS they unscrew by turning clockwise...
  • Dripping oil from the silencer

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    CalumC
    @skunkno1 I am not going to comment. I run Silkolene Comp 2 Plus and have the same issue But I'm not bothered by it.
  • Oil disappearing from sight glass

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    @declan I know, but the sight glass is problematic. I’ve seen posts where people thought the oil had disappeared but really had gone above the glass If my gear change feels smooth, I’ve got oil