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Yamaha DT125R '01 - Running Project

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  • DartyD Darty

    @Zrako Its from a 1987' YZ490.

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    Minor Update bits

    Hand sanded and Polished.

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    Ducati 899 Brembo Master Cylinder - 5 minutes to splice the old DTR Brake switch plug on, same coloured wires to.

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    Yamaha TDM900-5PS Brembo Master cylinder - Fits perfect. Frame mounts needs drilling out to M8 is all.
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    Thought I'd post some engine picys.

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    134cc TZR 4DL Topend - Mikuni TM32.

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    1987' YZ125 Airboot - The original DTR Airbox needs only simple modification.

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    @Louis-James Cheers man, I know what you mean about using any other Carb except a TMSS with an angled Venturi. I couldn't run the TM32 to start with.

    I'll use the WR200 Inlet instead, that solves the fitment issues, I use a Reed spacer on the standard inlet and that makes it work well.

    The WR200 Inlet helps to level out the Carb to something pretty good.

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    NINJA
    wrote on last edited by
    #74

    @Darty Looking damn good bud!!! 👍

    SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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      andrewj1680
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      The wr200 manifold won't fit unless you cut the back off it as it's too big to fit the dt case's also the holes look to be in slightly different places

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      • DartyD Darty

        @Zrako Its from a 1987' YZ490.

        alt text

        Minor Update bits

        Hand sanded and Polished.

        alt text

        Ducati 899 Brembo Master Cylinder - 5 minutes to splice the old DTR Brake switch plug on, same coloured wires to.

        alt text

        Yamaha TDM900-5PS Brembo Master cylinder - Fits perfect. Frame mounts needs drilling out to M8 is all.
        alt text

        Thought I'd post some engine picys.

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        134cc TZR 4DL Topend - Mikuni TM32.

        alt text

        1987' YZ125 Airboot - The original DTR Airbox needs only simple modification.

        alt text

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        @Louis-James Cheers man, I know what you mean about using any other Carb except a TMSS with an angled Venturi. I couldn't run the TM32 to start with.

        I'll use the WR200 Inlet instead, that solves the fitment issues, I use a Reed spacer on the standard inlet and that makes it work well.

        The WR200 Inlet helps to level out the Carb to something pretty good.

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        NINJA
        wrote on last edited by
        #76

        @Darty Did you just hand sand and hand polish the swing arm to get that result? Using fine grades all the time I suspect? Looks damn good if you did? How long did it take you to get that good of a result bud???

        SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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          Darty
          wrote on last edited by
          #77

          @andrewj1680 I know it's not perfect, cutting stuffers off is a big compromise to inlet air speed when using the standard Reed block.

          So to avoid that I'm using a VFORCE Reed block, still have to modify the mounts and cut the stuffers off, but the VFORCE will take care of the inlet volume and should give much better Midrange,

          @CYBER-NINJA Actually I did use a Orbital sander with 120 - 400 grit because these older swingarms have huge extrusion depressions under the thick paint, it looked very clumsy before, alot of material had to come away.

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          hand sanded in between and to Wet n Dry 600-800 grit, 1200 would be too anal.

          Keep it real

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          • DartyD Darty

            @andrewj1680 I know it's not perfect, cutting stuffers off is a big compromise to inlet air speed when using the standard Reed block.

            So to avoid that I'm using a VFORCE Reed block, still have to modify the mounts and cut the stuffers off, but the VFORCE will take care of the inlet volume and should give much better Midrange,

            @CYBER-NINJA Actually I did use a Orbital sander with 120 - 400 grit because these older swingarms have huge extrusion depressions under the thick paint, it looked very clumsy before, alot of material had to come away.

            alt text

            hand sanded in between and to Wet n Dry 600-800 grit, 1200 would be too anal.

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            NINJA
            wrote on last edited by
            #78

            @Darty Came out damn good tho in the end, well worth the time and effort IMO. 👍

            I need to do the same on my MX, I started with some wet & dry just to test it out, TBC..................

            SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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            • NINJAN NINJA

              @Darty Came out damn good tho in the end, well worth the time and effort IMO. 👍

              I need to do the same on my MX, I started with some wet & dry just to test it out, TBC..................

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              Darty
              wrote on last edited by
              #79

              @CYBER-NINJA Thank you very much,

              It was about a days work, very satisfying to finish

              Keep it real

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              • DartyD Darty

                @CYBER-NINJA Thank you very much,

                It was about a days work, very satisfying to finish

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                NINJA
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                #80

                @Darty Yeah lotsa elbow grease know doubt. I find using a good paint stripper with some steel wool works really well and also limits the scratches, then some wet & dry to smooth it all off, before you start on the polishing. All in all that method works very well and also it makes short work of the polishing. 😉

                SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                  #81

                  0_1494210331154_Screenshot_2017-05-08-03-13-33-1.png 0_1494210363397_Screenshot_2017-05-08-03-13-45-1.png
                  I did the whole polishing thing when I first started building my cr but by the time I finished I had decided I didn't wanna polish after every ride so I powder coated it black instead, did look the part tho

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                    I did the whole polishing thing when I first started building my cr but by the time I finished I had decided I didn't wanna polish after every ride so I powder coated it black instead, did look the part tho

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                    Darty
                    wrote on last edited by Darty
                    #82

                    @andrewj1680 Bang on! That would of looked mint, it's a shame alloy has to oxidise so quickly,

                    Keep it real

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                    • A andrewj1680

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                      I did the whole polishing thing when I first started building my cr but by the time I finished I had decided I didn't wanna polish after every ride so I powder coated it black instead, did look the part tho

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                      NINJA
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                      @andrewj1680 Oh man, that sure looks damn sweet, and such a shame to do all that work and then get all that lovely shiny metal blacked out. But hey-hoo I get why and it was your choice.

                      SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                      • NINJAN NINJA

                        @andrewj1680 Oh man, that sure looks damn sweet, and such a shame to do all that work and then get all that lovely shiny metal blacked out. But hey-hoo I get why and it was your choice.

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                        #84

                        @CYBER-NINJA I preferred the polished look but I'd of spent more time polishing it than riding it every time I took it out, Can you imagine trying to avoid every puddle you came across lol that wasn't for me if it's there I'm gonna ride it

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                          Darty
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                          #85

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                          (6mm Stainless Steel - Brass 13-14mm spacers)

                          I made DXF files for Waterjet cutting - for a Stainless Calliper adapter and spacers for a SM conversion using the 'YZF125' Brembo calliper.

                          If there are a few members here looking to do SM conversions, I could get a few kits together with bolts,

                          Just a limited run as I have the time for the moment.

                          Keep it real

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                            Darty
                            wrote on last edited by Darty
                            #86

                            32 degrees, sticky rubber, cotswold country lanes, 2strokes and considerable beer intake on par with University life.

                            I ride this thing 22 miles a day as a daily to go work, built this thing to be used and I just 'turn it up' a little on the Laptop for a blitz on the weekend somewhere.

                            Drawing this project to a close, and enjoying the result, or atleast this iteration of it so far...

                            alt text

                            I had some clearance issues with the Powervalve under expansion. I removed material in increments by machine sanding.

                            alt text

                            Custom bracket for the FMF Powercore1 can. Fits on a DTR well.

                            alt text

                            Built the headlight brackets,

                            alt text

                            WR400 Face swap.

                            alt text

                            There is no room left on this bike. Made a mount for the Ignitech Ignition, secure, doesn't suffer from heat exposure and most importantly it's accessible.

                            As for cooling, air flow is fine still.

                            alt text

                            Modified AS3 Silicone WR200 radiator hose's to suit this mongrel application.

                            This leads me to something interesting I found,

                            alt text

                            I needed a new WR200 coolant pipe, turns out later 4BF4 1995' WR200s use a larger 18mm bore coolant pipe.

                            I got one brand new old stock from Japan. I've rust protected it, primer and a Gold top coat for a little bling.

                            alt text

                            Then of course a 4BF4 Waterpump cover is required.

                            alt text

                            4BF4' Pictured above vs 125R/200R

                            alt text

                            alt text

                            I never knew Yamaha updated the cooling for the WR200, so I had help getting a used one.

                            alt text

                            IT ONLY JUST FITS... Tight bruuuh. I made a brace for the coolant down pipe as it's just a braised joint and I managed to split my last one like a clot.

                            Originally this mounts onto the WR200 Cylinder, so ideally this has to be done to the 125R barrel.

                            alt text

                            Cooling is now more than adequate,
                            alt text

                            WR200 Inlet, TM32 fitted. This inlet gives you more angle to use larger carburettor bodies.

                            alt text

                            WR200 vs DT125R. Inlet tract a little longer, Mounting points have to be modified and crankcase stuffers removed.

                            alt text

                            New YZ braided brake lines and removable exhaust joint to get the FMF onto the DEP.

                            alt text

                            (An oldschool mechanical display setup. Dorky but I love this older stuff.

                            alt text

                            The fun bits. Built to be ridden alot!

                            alt text

                            Using a base map close to a TZR125 4DL SP, It runs particularly well under 6K.

                            This DT now shifts.. I use a 4DL servo setting which utilises the PV opening later than the DT or TDR 3SH.

                            alt text

                            It's far from perfect, but a safe base tune to run on as this is my daily as the weather is so good.

                            alt text
                            It's run in properly now, and it is glorious. It sounds fantastic over 10,000rpm.

                            Powerband is up at 9,500rpm and it pulls hard to 13,000.

                            DTR Gear ratios are perfect for this TZR head and it's acceleration characteristic is spot on, 0-62 less than 6 seconds.

                            More to come, more bits from Japan to arrive and then finally a Dyno session with a TM34ss fitted.

                            Stay safe!

                            Keep it real

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                            • DartyD Darty

                              32 degrees, sticky rubber, cotswold country lanes, 2strokes and considerable beer intake on par with University life.

                              I ride this thing 22 miles a day as a daily to go work, built this thing to be used and I just 'turn it up' a little on the Laptop for a blitz on the weekend somewhere.

                              Drawing this project to a close, and enjoying the result, or atleast this iteration of it so far...

                              alt text

                              I had some clearance issues with the Powervalve under expansion. I removed material in increments by machine sanding.

                              alt text

                              Custom bracket for the FMF Powercore1 can. Fits on a DTR well.

                              alt text

                              Built the headlight brackets,

                              alt text

                              WR400 Face swap.

                              alt text

                              There is no room left on this bike. Made a mount for the Ignitech Ignition, secure, doesn't suffer from heat exposure and most importantly it's accessible.

                              As for cooling, air flow is fine still.

                              alt text

                              Modified AS3 Silicone WR200 radiator hose's to suit this mongrel application.

                              This leads me to something interesting I found,

                              alt text

                              I needed a new WR200 coolant pipe, turns out later 4BF4 1995' WR200s use a larger 18mm bore coolant pipe.

                              I got one brand new old stock from Japan. I've rust protected it, primer and a Gold top coat for a little bling.

                              alt text

                              Then of course a 4BF4 Waterpump cover is required.

                              alt text

                              4BF4' Pictured above vs 125R/200R

                              alt text

                              alt text

                              I never knew Yamaha updated the cooling for the WR200, so I had help getting a used one.

                              alt text

                              IT ONLY JUST FITS... Tight bruuuh. I made a brace for the coolant down pipe as it's just a braised joint and I managed to split my last one like a clot.

                              Originally this mounts onto the WR200 Cylinder, so ideally this has to be done to the 125R barrel.

                              alt text

                              Cooling is now more than adequate,
                              alt text

                              WR200 Inlet, TM32 fitted. This inlet gives you more angle to use larger carburettor bodies.

                              alt text

                              WR200 vs DT125R. Inlet tract a little longer, Mounting points have to be modified and crankcase stuffers removed.

                              alt text

                              New YZ braided brake lines and removable exhaust joint to get the FMF onto the DEP.

                              alt text

                              (An oldschool mechanical display setup. Dorky but I love this older stuff.

                              alt text

                              The fun bits. Built to be ridden alot!

                              alt text

                              Using a base map close to a TZR125 4DL SP, It runs particularly well under 6K.

                              This DT now shifts.. I use a 4DL servo setting which utilises the PV opening later than the DT or TDR 3SH.

                              alt text

                              It's far from perfect, but a safe base tune to run on as this is my daily as the weather is so good.

                              alt text
                              It's run in properly now, and it is glorious. It sounds fantastic over 10,000rpm.

                              Powerband is up at 9,500rpm and it pulls hard to 13,000.

                              DTR Gear ratios are perfect for this TZR head and it's acceleration characteristic is spot on, 0-62 less than 6 seconds.

                              More to come, more bits from Japan to arrive and then finally a Dyno session with a TM34ss fitted.

                              Stay safe!

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                              declan
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #87

                              @Darty my power comes in at around 9 but only pulls for a bit is this normal just because you have a fancy set up?

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                              • DartyD Darty

                                32 degrees, sticky rubber, cotswold country lanes, 2strokes and considerable beer intake on par with University life.

                                I ride this thing 22 miles a day as a daily to go work, built this thing to be used and I just 'turn it up' a little on the Laptop for a blitz on the weekend somewhere.

                                Drawing this project to a close, and enjoying the result, or atleast this iteration of it so far...

                                alt text

                                I had some clearance issues with the Powervalve under expansion. I removed material in increments by machine sanding.

                                alt text

                                Custom bracket for the FMF Powercore1 can. Fits on a DTR well.

                                alt text

                                Built the headlight brackets,

                                alt text

                                WR400 Face swap.

                                alt text

                                There is no room left on this bike. Made a mount for the Ignitech Ignition, secure, doesn't suffer from heat exposure and most importantly it's accessible.

                                As for cooling, air flow is fine still.

                                alt text

                                Modified AS3 Silicone WR200 radiator hose's to suit this mongrel application.

                                This leads me to something interesting I found,

                                alt text

                                I needed a new WR200 coolant pipe, turns out later 4BF4 1995' WR200s use a larger 18mm bore coolant pipe.

                                I got one brand new old stock from Japan. I've rust protected it, primer and a Gold top coat for a little bling.

                                alt text

                                Then of course a 4BF4 Waterpump cover is required.

                                alt text

                                4BF4' Pictured above vs 125R/200R

                                alt text

                                alt text

                                I never knew Yamaha updated the cooling for the WR200, so I had help getting a used one.

                                alt text

                                IT ONLY JUST FITS... Tight bruuuh. I made a brace for the coolant down pipe as it's just a braised joint and I managed to split my last one like a clot.

                                Originally this mounts onto the WR200 Cylinder, so ideally this has to be done to the 125R barrel.

                                alt text

                                Cooling is now more than adequate,
                                alt text

                                WR200 Inlet, TM32 fitted. This inlet gives you more angle to use larger carburettor bodies.

                                alt text

                                WR200 vs DT125R. Inlet tract a little longer, Mounting points have to be modified and crankcase stuffers removed.

                                alt text

                                New YZ braided brake lines and removable exhaust joint to get the FMF onto the DEP.

                                alt text

                                (An oldschool mechanical display setup. Dorky but I love this older stuff.

                                alt text

                                The fun bits. Built to be ridden alot!

                                alt text

                                Using a base map close to a TZR125 4DL SP, It runs particularly well under 6K.

                                This DT now shifts.. I use a 4DL servo setting which utilises the PV opening later than the DT or TDR 3SH.

                                alt text

                                It's far from perfect, but a safe base tune to run on as this is my daily as the weather is so good.

                                alt text
                                It's run in properly now, and it is glorious. It sounds fantastic over 10,000rpm.

                                Powerband is up at 9,500rpm and it pulls hard to 13,000.

                                DTR Gear ratios are perfect for this TZR head and it's acceleration characteristic is spot on, 0-62 less than 6 seconds.

                                More to come, more bits from Japan to arrive and then finally a Dyno session with a TM34ss fitted.

                                Stay safe!

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                                declan
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #88

                                @Darty btw that bike is legendary well fucking done man

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                                  @Darty btw that bike is legendary well fucking done man

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                                  Darty
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #89

                                  @declan Cheers boss, yeah I guess it hasn't risen much, it's not running right at top end RPM's. Possibly the Reeds failing.

                                  It's amazing how much more torquey it is than before, it's not a bad commuter bike still 😂

                                  Keep it real

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                                  • DartyD Darty

                                    32 degrees, sticky rubber, cotswold country lanes, 2strokes and considerable beer intake on par with University life.

                                    I ride this thing 22 miles a day as a daily to go work, built this thing to be used and I just 'turn it up' a little on the Laptop for a blitz on the weekend somewhere.

                                    Drawing this project to a close, and enjoying the result, or atleast this iteration of it so far...

                                    alt text

                                    I had some clearance issues with the Powervalve under expansion. I removed material in increments by machine sanding.

                                    alt text

                                    Custom bracket for the FMF Powercore1 can. Fits on a DTR well.

                                    alt text

                                    Built the headlight brackets,

                                    alt text

                                    WR400 Face swap.

                                    alt text

                                    There is no room left on this bike. Made a mount for the Ignitech Ignition, secure, doesn't suffer from heat exposure and most importantly it's accessible.

                                    As for cooling, air flow is fine still.

                                    alt text

                                    Modified AS3 Silicone WR200 radiator hose's to suit this mongrel application.

                                    This leads me to something interesting I found,

                                    alt text

                                    I needed a new WR200 coolant pipe, turns out later 4BF4 1995' WR200s use a larger 18mm bore coolant pipe.

                                    I got one brand new old stock from Japan. I've rust protected it, primer and a Gold top coat for a little bling.

                                    alt text

                                    Then of course a 4BF4 Waterpump cover is required.

                                    alt text

                                    4BF4' Pictured above vs 125R/200R

                                    alt text

                                    alt text

                                    I never knew Yamaha updated the cooling for the WR200, so I had help getting a used one.

                                    alt text

                                    IT ONLY JUST FITS... Tight bruuuh. I made a brace for the coolant down pipe as it's just a braised joint and I managed to split my last one like a clot.

                                    Originally this mounts onto the WR200 Cylinder, so ideally this has to be done to the 125R barrel.

                                    alt text

                                    Cooling is now more than adequate,
                                    alt text

                                    WR200 Inlet, TM32 fitted. This inlet gives you more angle to use larger carburettor bodies.

                                    alt text

                                    WR200 vs DT125R. Inlet tract a little longer, Mounting points have to be modified and crankcase stuffers removed.

                                    alt text

                                    New YZ braided brake lines and removable exhaust joint to get the FMF onto the DEP.

                                    alt text

                                    (An oldschool mechanical display setup. Dorky but I love this older stuff.

                                    alt text

                                    The fun bits. Built to be ridden alot!

                                    alt text

                                    Using a base map close to a TZR125 4DL SP, It runs particularly well under 6K.

                                    This DT now shifts.. I use a 4DL servo setting which utilises the PV opening later than the DT or TDR 3SH.

                                    alt text

                                    It's far from perfect, but a safe base tune to run on as this is my daily as the weather is so good.

                                    alt text
                                    It's run in properly now, and it is glorious. It sounds fantastic over 10,000rpm.

                                    Powerband is up at 9,500rpm and it pulls hard to 13,000.

                                    DTR Gear ratios are perfect for this TZR head and it's acceleration characteristic is spot on, 0-62 less than 6 seconds.

                                    More to come, more bits from Japan to arrive and then finally a Dyno session with a TM34ss fitted.

                                    Stay safe!

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                                    Calum
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #90

                                    @Darty Oh my, yes bud this is fantastic!!!!! 😄

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                      Mightyman
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                                      #91

                                      Very interested to see the dyno results!

                                      TDR 125 - 2001

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                                        Jens Eskildsen
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                                        #92

                                        Yeah me 2 😃

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                                          hey, are the calipers you designed for the dtx front brake? or is it for dtr front brake? because if it is for dtx front brake i would be interested

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