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    declan
    wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 20:27 last edited by
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    @spookdog noice

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      28 Sept 2021, 14:03

      @spookdog

      500 miles run in

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      SpookDog
      wrote on 4 Oct 2021, 13:44 last edited by SpookDog 10 Apr 2021, 14:45
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      @spookdog

      I just got a 400 Kenda rear tyre. Am I going to regret it? Does the Dtr take a 400 tyre ok?

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        4 Oct 2021, 13:44

        @spookdog

        I just got a 400 Kenda rear tyre. Am I going to regret it? Does the Dtr take a 400 tyre ok?

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        SpookDog
        wrote on 8 Oct 2021, 13:36 last edited by
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        Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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          8 Oct 2021, 13:36

          Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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          rollzy101
          wrote on 12 Oct 2021, 19:42 last edited by
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          @spookdog if its rust converter mine burnt and pealed off, ended up using acid based rust remover which was fine

          Owned: Yamaha DT125LC, XT125, DT125R, YZF R125, CBR125, RS125

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            8 Oct 2021, 13:36

            Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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            Nottsbiker
            wrote on 13 Oct 2021, 07:41 last edited by
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            @spookdog I've used the Loctite stuff before but its not very good, apparently Jennolite (sp?) is meant to be much better. Probably better to get blasted then paint immediately afterwards

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              8 Oct 2021, 13:36

              Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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              Stevie Wonder
              wrote on 14 Oct 2021, 11:50 last edited by
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              @spookdog said in So Close!...:

              Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

              Use harpic x10, a few of my mates use it on their WR125’s to get all the road grim that builds up and allow the pipe to bronze a nice colour however I’ve been told it’s known to strip stainless of its stainless ability so I’d also recommend getting your hands on some ACF50

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                14 Oct 2021, 11:50

                @spookdog said in So Close!...:

                Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

                Use harpic x10, a few of my mates use it on their WR125’s to get all the road grim that builds up and allow the pipe to bronze a nice colour however I’ve been told it’s known to strip stainless of its stainless ability so I’d also recommend getting your hands on some ACF50

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                Nottsbiker
                wrote on 15 Oct 2021, 12:46 last edited by
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                @stevie-wonder Harpic is brutal but effective - it will mark the chrome on forks its that acidic. If you use it you must paint straight after as its bare metal which will immediately rust again

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                  15 Oct 2021, 12:46

                  @stevie-wonder Harpic is brutal but effective - it will mark the chrome on forks its that acidic. If you use it you must paint straight after as its bare metal which will immediately rust again

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                  SpookDog
                  wrote on 17 Oct 2021, 13:47 last edited by
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                  Cheers guys!

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                  • S SpookDog
                    8 Oct 2021, 13:36

                    Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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                    markus.w
                    wrote on 17 Oct 2021, 17:05 last edited by
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                    @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

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                      17 Oct 2021, 17:05

                      @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

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                      Stevie Wonder
                      wrote on 18 Oct 2021, 14:02 last edited by Stevie Wonder
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                      @markus-w said in So Close!...:

                      @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

                      Pretty sure hammerite also do a gel rust converter, simply apply, let it’s do it’s thing then get to going at it with some good old fashion elbow grease. £15 I think (bit pricey) perfectly safe on paint and being the fact it’s a gel it’s rather ideal for leaving on in those hard to reach areas and fiddly bits

                      Also @Nottsbiker jheez. strong stuff then, I’m surprised it’s sold so freely over the counter if that’s the case

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                        18 Oct 2021, 14:02

                        @markus-w said in So Close!...:

                        @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

                        Pretty sure hammerite also do a gel rust converter, simply apply, let it’s do it’s thing then get to going at it with some good old fashion elbow grease. £15 I think (bit pricey) perfectly safe on paint and being the fact it’s a gel it’s rather ideal for leaving on in those hard to reach areas and fiddly bits

                        Also @Nottsbiker jheez. strong stuff then, I’m surprised it’s sold so freely over the counter if that’s the case

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                        Nottsbiker
                        wrote on 20 Oct 2021, 07:37 last edited by
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                        @stevie-wonder its good for the price, you just have to be careful and only use it on the right parts

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                          20 Oct 2021, 07:37

                          @stevie-wonder its good for the price, you just have to be careful and only use it on the right parts

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                          SpookDog
                          wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 16:48 last edited by
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                          I had a good score recently, I got a 3mb barrel with a perfectly good piston in it that has 3mb embossed on the inside skirt, so I’m guessing it’s original? It also has the power valve, pulley & cover/housing as well as the cables with a 3wire servo connected!! (Rubber cover pristine) all still fitted. Also there is a perfect 3mb head 🙂 £130 off of fleabay! Of all places...

                          The point is, I was warming it up to remove the temp sensor and I realised it doesn’t have 3mb stamped on it. Looked closer and the head and barrel are P stamped. Someone told me about this before but I can’t remember the details. I think it was originally a TZR top end? Did they come with servo fitted?

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                            14 Mar 2022, 16:48

                            I had a good score recently, I got a 3mb barrel with a perfectly good piston in it that has 3mb embossed on the inside skirt, so I’m guessing it’s original? It also has the power valve, pulley & cover/housing as well as the cables with a 3wire servo connected!! (Rubber cover pristine) all still fitted. Also there is a perfect 3mb head 🙂 £130 off of fleabay! Of all places...

                            The point is, I was warming it up to remove the temp sensor and I realised it doesn’t have 3mb stamped on it. Looked closer and the head and barrel are P stamped. Someone told me about this before but I can’t remember the details. I think it was originally a TZR top end? Did they come with servo fitted?

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                            Stevie Wonder
                            wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 18:43 last edited by
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                            @SpookDog 4DL Series 1 TZR125RR, cast in Italy by polini/minarelli (the italian cast 3mb barrels are a much worse quality in terms of the quality of the cast). The 4DL heads are blank on top with nothing but a P stamp on the side. The original 4DL power valves are the same as the DTR however the powervalve housing has a motor minarelli stamp on the cover that’s both original and unique to the 4DL Series 1. It’s also a nice metallic grey colour too.

                            Fun fact when I sold my TZR P top end I nicked the cover off it and sold it without just for that reason, makes not a sods worth of difference but oh well 😂

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                              14 Mar 2022, 18:43

                              @SpookDog 4DL Series 1 TZR125RR, cast in Italy by polini/minarelli (the italian cast 3mb barrels are a much worse quality in terms of the quality of the cast). The 4DL heads are blank on top with nothing but a P stamp on the side. The original 4DL power valves are the same as the DTR however the powervalve housing has a motor minarelli stamp on the cover that’s both original and unique to the 4DL Series 1. It’s also a nice metallic grey colour too.

                              Fun fact when I sold my TZR P top end I nicked the cover off it and sold it without just for that reason, makes not a sods worth of difference but oh well 😂

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                              Calum
                              wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 19:07 last edited by
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                              @Stevie-Wonder The TZR 3MB00P Barrel also had a 1mm raised exhaust port timing. And the connecting rods are slightly different

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                14 Mar 2022, 18:43

                                @SpookDog 4DL Series 1 TZR125RR, cast in Italy by polini/minarelli (the italian cast 3mb barrels are a much worse quality in terms of the quality of the cast). The 4DL heads are blank on top with nothing but a P stamp on the side. The original 4DL power valves are the same as the DTR however the powervalve housing has a motor minarelli stamp on the cover that’s both original and unique to the 4DL Series 1. It’s also a nice metallic grey colour too.

                                Fun fact when I sold my TZR P top end I nicked the cover off it and sold it without just for that reason, makes not a sods worth of difference but oh well 😂

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                                wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 19:53 last edited by SpookDog
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                                @Stevie-Wonder

                                Do you mean the pulley cover, or the right foot side cap? The cap on mine is a bit mangled and sealed with silicon 😐 it’s the only down side I can see...
                                Yep, the head is blank except for the P. The barrel has the P stamped in the middle of the 3mb bit...

                                @Calum

                                Do you mean the Conrod itself or the crank throw? (Stroke)...

                                Is this P stamp a good thing or a problem waiting to happen?...

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                                  14 Mar 2022, 19:53

                                  @Stevie-Wonder

                                  Do you mean the pulley cover, or the right foot side cap? The cap on mine is a bit mangled and sealed with silicon 😐 it’s the only down side I can see...
                                  Yep, the head is blank except for the P. The barrel has the P stamped in the middle of the 3mb bit...

                                  @Calum

                                  Do you mean the Conrod itself or the crank throw? (Stroke)...

                                  Is this P stamp a good thing or a problem waiting to happen?...

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                                  Calum
                                  wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 22:53 last edited by
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                                  @SpookDog It's a good thing if it's a genuine Motoriminarelli Barrel.

                                  Sorry, the cranks are ever so slightly narrower. I had to have the stock 3MB rod whittled down to fit. But don't worry, cylinder + Heads are interchangeable.

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                                    14 Mar 2022, 22:53

                                    @SpookDog It's a good thing if it's a genuine Motoriminarelli Barrel.

                                    Sorry, the cranks are ever so slightly narrower. I had to have the stock 3MB rod whittled down to fit. But don't worry, cylinder + Heads are interchangeable.

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                                    wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 15:32 last edited by SpookDog
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                                    Wow! Just took my head off and do you live and learn! I don’t have dome nuts for my head so I’ve been using normal ones, they’ve been letting the road water and rock salt (from a month or two ago) leak down into the studs and cause enough corrosion to lift the nut at the front of the engine! I put new studs in and the back four are still shiny! The front one has white crud like you get on battery terminals all the way down it past the threads!
                                    It must of acted like frost in a crack in stone and forced it apart!
                                    So much white crud!...

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                                      20 Mar 2022, 15:32

                                      Wow! Just took my head off and do you live and learn! I don’t have dome nuts for my head so I’ve been using normal ones, they’ve been letting the road water and rock salt (from a month or two ago) leak down into the studs and cause enough corrosion to lift the nut at the front of the engine! I put new studs in and the back four are still shiny! The front one has white crud like you get on battery terminals all the way down it past the threads!
                                      It must of acted like frost in a crack in stone and forced it apart!
                                      So much white crud!...

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                                      SpookDog
                                      wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:10 last edited by
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                                      Are there any stainless steel exhausts on the market at the mo? I actually have searched but everything seems to be 10 years ago. Can’t find anything recent...

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                                        23 Mar 2022, 21:10

                                        Are there any stainless steel exhausts on the market at the mo? I actually have searched but everything seems to be 10 years ago. Can’t find anything recent...

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                                        Calum
                                        wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 07:36 last edited by
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                                        @SpookDog What about Arrow? Titanium End Cans for those as well

                                        https://www.arrow.it/en/assembled/746/Yamaha-DT-125-X-2004-2006
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                                          Calum
                                          wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 07:40 last edited by
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                                          @SpookDog Althought they aren't Stainless.

                                          Romeu makes Stainless Steel pipes.

                                          https://www.ebay.ie/usr/romeu125?_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2559

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                                          But he seemed to have stopped selling any on his page. If you PM him on eBay though....

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