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  • S SpookDog

    Took me a while but I got a rebore and new piston. Almost got it back together.
    I ended up getting another gasket, single layer usual thing. I just didn’t trust the triple ply one held together with brass rivets! A single bit of crap between one of the layers would be fatal. Theyre fairly loose but uncleanable on the 4 inner surfaces!...
    I’d love to know why Athena makes it...

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    @spookdog I think you are overthinking the headgasket a bit mate athena make some of the best non oem gaskets and seals

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      @spookdog I think you are overthinking the headgasket a bit mate athena make some of the best non oem gaskets and seals

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      I know they make good gaskets, but this thing is over 3 times the thickness of a ‘normal’ one. I’d just like to know why. There must be a good reason!...

      Also my bike is ticking over nice and low but when I put the lights on it stumbles and dies. Any input? I have the first stator with three individual coils. 1 for charching 1 for lights and 1 for ignition. How can the lights be piggy backing the ignition?! Poor earth on the ignition side?

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        I know they make good gaskets, but this thing is over 3 times the thickness of a ‘normal’ one. I’d just like to know why. There must be a good reason!...

        Also my bike is ticking over nice and low but when I put the lights on it stumbles and dies. Any input? I have the first stator with three individual coils. 1 for charching 1 for lights and 1 for ignition. How can the lights be piggy backing the ignition?! Poor earth on the ignition side?

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        @spookdog id imagine it's a crush gasket so when it's torqued down it would crush down to oem thickness and seal really well

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          I know they make good gaskets, but this thing is over 3 times the thickness of a ‘normal’ one. I’d just like to know why. There must be a good reason!...

          Also my bike is ticking over nice and low but when I put the lights on it stumbles and dies. Any input? I have the first stator with three individual coils. 1 for charching 1 for lights and 1 for ignition. How can the lights be piggy backing the ignition?! Poor earth on the ignition side?

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          @spookdog Same thing happens in my Starlet. If I turn the headlights on and fans on the idle drops 🤣

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            @spookdog Same thing happens in my Starlet. If I turn the headlights on and fans on the idle drops 🤣

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            Done my first running in run. 65 miles of ‘still going’!
            Fingers crossed 🤞

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            • S SpookDog

              Done my first running in run. 65 miles of ‘still going’!
              Fingers crossed 🤞

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              @spookdog

              500 miles run in

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                @spookdog noice

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                  @spookdog

                  500 miles run in

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                  @spookdog

                  I just got a 400 Kenda rear tyre. Am I going to regret it? Does the Dtr take a 400 tyre ok?

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                    @spookdog

                    I just got a 400 Kenda rear tyre. Am I going to regret it? Does the Dtr take a 400 tyre ok?

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                    Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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                      Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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                      @spookdog if its rust converter mine burnt and pealed off, ended up using acid based rust remover which was fine

                      Owned: Yamaha DT125LC, XT125, DT125R, YZF R125, CBR125, RS125

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                        Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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                        @spookdog I've used the Loctite stuff before but its not very good, apparently Jennolite (sp?) is meant to be much better. Probably better to get blasted then paint immediately afterwards

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                          Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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                          @spookdog said in So Close!...:

                          Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

                          Use harpic x10, a few of my mates use it on their WR125’s to get all the road grim that builds up and allow the pipe to bronze a nice colour however I’ve been told it’s known to strip stainless of its stainless ability so I’d also recommend getting your hands on some ACF50

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                            @spookdog said in So Close!...:

                            Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

                            Use harpic x10, a few of my mates use it on their WR125’s to get all the road grim that builds up and allow the pipe to bronze a nice colour however I’ve been told it’s known to strip stainless of its stainless ability so I’d also recommend getting your hands on some ACF50

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                            @stevie-wonder Harpic is brutal but effective - it will mark the chrome on forks its that acidic. If you use it you must paint straight after as its bare metal which will immediately rust again

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                              @stevie-wonder Harpic is brutal but effective - it will mark the chrome on forks its that acidic. If you use it you must paint straight after as its bare metal which will immediately rust again

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                              Cheers guys!

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                                Anyone used rust converter on exhaust downpipe?...

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                                @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

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                                  @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

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                                  @markus-w said in So Close!...:

                                  @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

                                  Pretty sure hammerite also do a gel rust converter, simply apply, let it’s do it’s thing then get to going at it with some good old fashion elbow grease. £15 I think (bit pricey) perfectly safe on paint and being the fact it’s a gel it’s rather ideal for leaving on in those hard to reach areas and fiddly bits

                                  Also @Nottsbiker jheez. strong stuff then, I’m surprised it’s sold so freely over the counter if that’s the case

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                                    @markus-w said in So Close!...:

                                    @spookdog I used Hammerite kurust on my Dep downpipe that had rusted really bad at the header. It's a brush on rust converter that transforms the rust into a stable material. It turns it black then you paint it. Done at the start of this year and all good so far. £5 from Halfords.

                                    Pretty sure hammerite also do a gel rust converter, simply apply, let it’s do it’s thing then get to going at it with some good old fashion elbow grease. £15 I think (bit pricey) perfectly safe on paint and being the fact it’s a gel it’s rather ideal for leaving on in those hard to reach areas and fiddly bits

                                    Also @Nottsbiker jheez. strong stuff then, I’m surprised it’s sold so freely over the counter if that’s the case

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                                    @stevie-wonder its good for the price, you just have to be careful and only use it on the right parts

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                                      @stevie-wonder its good for the price, you just have to be careful and only use it on the right parts

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                                      I had a good score recently, I got a 3mb barrel with a perfectly good piston in it that has 3mb embossed on the inside skirt, so I’m guessing it’s original? It also has the power valve, pulley & cover/housing as well as the cables with a 3wire servo connected!! (Rubber cover pristine) all still fitted. Also there is a perfect 3mb head 🙂 £130 off of fleabay! Of all places...

                                      The point is, I was warming it up to remove the temp sensor and I realised it doesn’t have 3mb stamped on it. Looked closer and the head and barrel are P stamped. Someone told me about this before but I can’t remember the details. I think it was originally a TZR top end? Did they come with servo fitted?

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                                        I had a good score recently, I got a 3mb barrel with a perfectly good piston in it that has 3mb embossed on the inside skirt, so I’m guessing it’s original? It also has the power valve, pulley & cover/housing as well as the cables with a 3wire servo connected!! (Rubber cover pristine) all still fitted. Also there is a perfect 3mb head 🙂 £130 off of fleabay! Of all places...

                                        The point is, I was warming it up to remove the temp sensor and I realised it doesn’t have 3mb stamped on it. Looked closer and the head and barrel are P stamped. Someone told me about this before but I can’t remember the details. I think it was originally a TZR top end? Did they come with servo fitted?

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                                        @SpookDog 4DL Series 1 TZR125RR, cast in Italy by polini/minarelli (the italian cast 3mb barrels are a much worse quality in terms of the quality of the cast). The 4DL heads are blank on top with nothing but a P stamp on the side. The original 4DL power valves are the same as the DTR however the powervalve housing has a motor minarelli stamp on the cover that’s both original and unique to the 4DL Series 1. It’s also a nice metallic grey colour too.

                                        Fun fact when I sold my TZR P top end I nicked the cover off it and sold it without just for that reason, makes not a sods worth of difference but oh well 😂

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                                          @SpookDog 4DL Series 1 TZR125RR, cast in Italy by polini/minarelli (the italian cast 3mb barrels are a much worse quality in terms of the quality of the cast). The 4DL heads are blank on top with nothing but a P stamp on the side. The original 4DL power valves are the same as the DTR however the powervalve housing has a motor minarelli stamp on the cover that’s both original and unique to the 4DL Series 1. It’s also a nice metallic grey colour too.

                                          Fun fact when I sold my TZR P top end I nicked the cover off it and sold it without just for that reason, makes not a sods worth of difference but oh well 😂

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                                          @Stevie-Wonder The TZR 3MB00P Barrel also had a 1mm raised exhaust port timing. And the connecting rods are slightly different

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