Kick stand kill switch
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wrote on 19 Nov 2017, 19:04 last edited by Spanners
All,
I’m still struggling with the switch and how to kid the CDI it is still present.
I still have the male or female end of the blue plug so l got two electrical connections and put on each pin to complete the circuit.
Unfortunately this has failed to convince the somewhat intelligent DT that the switch is still present.
It must be the switch because out of gear it is fine, in gear it just dies.
Is it looking for a certain resistance, do l need the other male end?
So l was wondering what some of you guys have done to get around this problem?
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wrote on 19 Nov 2017, 19:16 last edited by
Pretty sure it's just an open circuit just gets closed merely by the kickstand switch.
So short it out that should sort it out.
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Pretty sure it's just an open circuit just gets closed merely by the kickstand switch.
So short it out that should sort it out.
wrote on 19 Nov 2017, 20:31 last edited by@calum
I have done that Calum but it doesn’t seem to stop it killing the engine.
And as said it is fine out of gear, just when you start to ride.
I’m at a brick wall with it, l have had the Haynes manual out, sorted all if the wires.
Installed indicators, even sorted the parking light out! Ha-ha!
But this has beat me!
Everything l watch on YouTube they have the kill switch and cut the switch off then use wire past the connectors.
Where as I’m just jumping them at the female end connector?
Unfortunately l know nothing about electrical, apart from common sense!
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@calum
I have done that Calum but it doesn’t seem to stop it killing the engine.
And as said it is fine out of gear, just when you start to ride.
I’m at a brick wall with it, l have had the Haynes manual out, sorted all if the wires.
Installed indicators, even sorted the parking light out! Ha-ha!
But this has beat me!
Everything l watch on YouTube they have the kill switch and cut the switch off then use wire past the connectors.
Where as I’m just jumping them at the female end connector?
Unfortunately l know nothing about electrical, apart from common sense! -
@calum
I have done that Calum but it doesn’t seem to stop it killing the engine.
And as said it is fine out of gear, just when you start to ride.
I’m at a brick wall with it, l have had the Haynes manual out, sorted all if the wires.
Installed indicators, even sorted the parking light out! Ha-ha!
But this has beat me!
Everything l watch on YouTube they have the kill switch and cut the switch off then use wire past the connectors.
Where as I’m just jumping them at the female end connector?
Unfortunately l know nothing about electrical, apart from common sense! -
wrote on 19 Nov 2017, 20:49 last edited by
@declan
Hi Declan
Thanks for the advice, and yes that’s what a was saying.
If you see in the picture, the Blue connector is what the kill switch plugs into.
I don’t actually have a kill switch, so l can jump the wires past the female connector.
Surely the CDI can’t be that intelligent where it requires a certain resistance?
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wrote on 19 Nov 2017, 20:49 last edited by
I'd have to check the wiring diagram. But it's not doing anything clever.
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@spanners Check the connectors for any corrosion, then check all wires too and from those connectors for corrosion or bare wire. As that will cause the circuit to short out and activate the kill switch.
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@ninja
Thanks Ninja!
I think that is the best step, checking all the associated wires for wear.
Next thing is maybe buying a clucking kill switch! Ha-ha!
wrote on 19 Nov 2017, 20:56 last edited by@spanners I'd check all the wires first dude, normally the kill switch is just an open or close switch, pretty much the same as a regular wall light switch. If the wiring is sound then you know it's a faulty switch and vice versa!!!
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wrote on 20 Nov 2017, 11:30 last edited by
Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it
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Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it
wrote on 20 Nov 2017, 11:37 last edited by@finnerz89
Thank you for the advice, l will have a go later!
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Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it
wrote on 20 Nov 2017, 12:40 last edited by@finnerz89 This was my thoughts exactly, but wasn't sure enough to post it.
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Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it
wrote on 20 Nov 2017, 20:59 last edited by@finnerz89
So I’ve just been on YouTube and l think now l should take the two wires and connect them then ground them both to the frame.
I believe this is to stop the rectifier over heating.
Does this sound about right? -
@finnerz89
So I’ve just been on YouTube and l think now l should take the two wires and connect them then ground them both to the frame.
I believe this is to stop the rectifier over heating.
Does this sound about right? -
wrote on 21 Nov 2017, 10:19 last edited by
I'd just get the side stand switch fitted.
Is there any reason why you don't want one.
My Aprilia didn't have one, it had a suicide stand. And on one occasion it didn't retract. I remember riding it for a few miles with the stand semi-down. And when I came round a bend, it chipped the floor nearly writing me off.
It's a good lesson, I would always have one fitted given the choice.
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I'd just get the side stand switch fitted.
Is there any reason why you don't want one.
My Aprilia didn't have one, it had a suicide stand. And on one occasion it didn't retract. I remember riding it for a few miles with the stand semi-down. And when I came round a bend, it chipped the floor nearly writing me off.
It's a good lesson, I would always have one fitted given the choice.
wrote on 21 Nov 2017, 22:34 last edited by@calum
Well to buy a new one is around £60, considering to bike never had one and they seemed quite annoying if they fail l figured l would just over ride it.
But I’ve had a word with the lads at GB Breakers and they have one for a decent price.
Also l can’t figure out how to do it! Ha-ha!
Will l ever get to ride the DT l have built......
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@calum
Well to buy a new one is around £60, considering to bike never had one and they seemed quite annoying if they fail l figured l would just over ride it.
But I’ve had a word with the lads at GB Breakers and they have one for a decent price.
Also l can’t figure out how to do it! Ha-ha!
Will l ever get to ride the DT l have built...... -
wrote on 22 Nov 2017, 07:26 last edited by
I thought you cut the plug off then joined both wires together
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wrote on 22 Nov 2017, 14:37 last edited by
@dan28 l have tried that Dan, it doesn’t work.
Strangely it works a little bit, but as you go up the revs in cuts out.
It plays with you a little bit, then leaves you to do the walk of shame back to your house whilst it laughs behind your back.
Maybe I’ve dramatised that a little.....ha-ha!
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@dan28 l have tried that Dan, it doesn’t work.
Strangely it works a little bit, but as you go up the revs in cuts out.
It plays with you a little bit, then leaves you to do the walk of shame back to your house whilst it laughs behind your back.
Maybe I’ve dramatised that a little.....ha-ha!