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  • SpannersS Offline
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    Spanners
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    All,
    Iโ€™m still struggling with the switch and how to kid the CDI it is still present.
    I still have the male or female end of the blue plug so l got two electrical connections and put on each pin to complete the circuit.
    Unfortunately this has failed to convince the somewhat intelligent DT that the switch is still present.
    It must be the switch because out of gear it is fine, in gear it just dies.
    Is it looking for a certain resistance, do l need the other male end?
    So l was wondering what some of you guys have done to get around this problem?
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    • CalumC Offline
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      Calum
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      Pretty sure it's just an open circuit just gets closed merely by the kickstand switch.

      So short it out that should sort it out.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • CalumC Calum

        Pretty sure it's just an open circuit just gets closed merely by the kickstand switch.

        So short it out that should sort it out.

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        Spanners
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        @calum
        I have done that Calum but it doesnโ€™t seem to stop it killing the engine.
        And as said it is fine out of gear, just when you start to ride.
        Iโ€™m at a brick wall with it, l have had the Haynes manual out, sorted all if the wires.
        Installed indicators, even sorted the parking light out! Ha-ha!
        But this has beat me!
        Everything l watch on YouTube they have the kill switch and cut the switch off then use wire past the connectors.
        Where as Iโ€™m just jumping them at the female end connector?
        Unfortunately l know nothing about electrical, apart from common sense! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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        • SpannersS Spanners

          @calum
          I have done that Calum but it doesnโ€™t seem to stop it killing the engine.
          And as said it is fine out of gear, just when you start to ride.
          Iโ€™m at a brick wall with it, l have had the Haynes manual out, sorted all if the wires.
          Installed indicators, even sorted the parking light out! Ha-ha!
          But this has beat me!
          Everything l watch on YouTube they have the kill switch and cut the switch off then use wire past the connectors.
          Where as Iโ€™m just jumping them at the female end connector?
          Unfortunately l know nothing about electrical, apart from common sense! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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          declan
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          @spanners mines cut off where the wires come out of the actual switch

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            @calum
            I have done that Calum but it doesnโ€™t seem to stop it killing the engine.
            And as said it is fine out of gear, just when you start to ride.
            Iโ€™m at a brick wall with it, l have had the Haynes manual out, sorted all if the wires.
            Installed indicators, even sorted the parking light out! Ha-ha!
            But this has beat me!
            Everything l watch on YouTube they have the kill switch and cut the switch off then use wire past the connectors.
            Where as Iโ€™m just jumping them at the female end connector?
            Unfortunately l know nothing about electrical, apart from common sense! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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            NINJA
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            @spanners Check the connectors for any corrosion, then check all wires too and from those connectors for corrosion or bare wire. As that will cause the circuit to short out and activate the kill switch.

            SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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            • declanD declan

              @spanners mines cut off where the wires come out of the actual switch

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              Spanners
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @declan
              Hi Declan
              Thanks for the advice, and yes thatโ€™s what a was saying.
              If you see in the picture, the Blue connector is what the kill switch plugs into.
              I donโ€™t actually have a kill switch, so l can jump the wires past the female connector.
              Surely the CDI canโ€™t be that intelligent where it requires a certain resistance? ๐Ÿ˜ข

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              • CalumC Offline
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                Calum
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                I'd have to check the wiring diagram. But it's not doing anything clever.

                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                • NINJAN NINJA

                  @spanners Check the connectors for any corrosion, then check all wires too and from those connectors for corrosion or bare wire. As that will cause the circuit to short out and activate the kill switch.

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                  Spanners
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                  @ninja
                  Thanks Ninja!
                  I think that is the best step, checking all the associated wires for wear.
                  Next thing is maybe buying a clucking kill switch! Ha-ha! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                  • SpannersS Spanners

                    @ninja
                    Thanks Ninja!
                    I think that is the best step, checking all the associated wires for wear.
                    Next thing is maybe buying a clucking kill switch! Ha-ha! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                    NINJA
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                    #9

                    @spanners I'd check all the wires first dude, normally the kill switch is just an open or close switch, pretty much the same as a regular wall light switch. If the wiring is sound then you know it's a faulty switch and vice versa!!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                      finnerz89
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                      Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it

                      Current bikes:
                      DT125X '07
                      Street Triple R '11
                      Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                      Previous:
                      DR650RSE '96
                      FJ1200 '92

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                      • F finnerz89

                        Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it

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                        Spanners
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                        #11

                        @finnerz89
                        Thank you for the advice, l will have a go later! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ‘

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                        • F finnerz89

                          Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it

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                          Calum
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                          @finnerz89 This was my thoughts exactly, but wasn't sure enough to post it.

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                          • F finnerz89

                            Doesn't the sidestand switch earth through the frame? Pretty sure mine only has 1 wire going to it, connect that to the frame somewhere and that should sort it

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                            @finnerz89
                            So Iโ€™ve just been on YouTube and l think now l should take the two wires and connect them then ground them both to the frame.
                            I believe this is to stop the rectifier over heating.
                            Does this sound about right? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘

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                              @finnerz89
                              So Iโ€™ve just been on YouTube and l think now l should take the two wires and connect them then ground them both to the frame.
                              I believe this is to stop the rectifier over heating.
                              Does this sound about right? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘

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                              finnerz89
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                              @spanners that's a new one on me lol. You should only need to ground one of them

                              Current bikes:
                              DT125X '07
                              Street Triple R '11
                              Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                              Previous:
                              DR650RSE '96
                              FJ1200 '92

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                                I'd just get the side stand switch fitted.

                                Is there any reason why you don't want one.

                                My Aprilia didn't have one, it had a suicide stand. And on one occasion it didn't retract. I remember riding it for a few miles with the stand semi-down. And when I came round a bend, it chipped the floor nearly writing me off.

                                It's a good lesson, I would always have one fitted given the choice.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                • CalumC Calum

                                  I'd just get the side stand switch fitted.

                                  Is there any reason why you don't want one.

                                  My Aprilia didn't have one, it had a suicide stand. And on one occasion it didn't retract. I remember riding it for a few miles with the stand semi-down. And when I came round a bend, it chipped the floor nearly writing me off.

                                  It's a good lesson, I would always have one fitted given the choice.

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                                  Spanners
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                                  @calum
                                  Well to buy a new one is around ยฃ60, considering to bike never had one and they seemed quite annoying if they fail l figured l would just over ride it.
                                  But Iโ€™ve had a word with the lads at GB Breakers and they have one for a decent price.
                                  Also l canโ€™t figure out how to do it! Ha-ha!
                                  Will l ever get to ride the DT l have built......๐Ÿคฃ

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                                    @calum
                                    Well to buy a new one is around ยฃ60, considering to bike never had one and they seemed quite annoying if they fail l figured l would just over ride it.
                                    But Iโ€™ve had a word with the lads at GB Breakers and they have one for a decent price.
                                    Also l canโ€™t figure out how to do it! Ha-ha!
                                    Will l ever get to ride the DT l have built......๐Ÿคฃ

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                                    Calum
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                                    @spanners Hhm, never had one fail on me personally.

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                      dan28
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                                      I thought you cut the plug off then joined both wires together

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                                      • D dan28

                                        I thought you cut the plug off then joined both wires together

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                                        @dan28 l have tried that Dan, it doesnโ€™t work.
                                        Strangely it works a little bit, but as you go up the revs in cuts out.
                                        It plays with you a little bit, then leaves you to do the walk of shame back to your house whilst it laughs behind your back.
                                        Maybe Iโ€™ve dramatised that a little.....ha-ha! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ก

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                                          @dan28 l have tried that Dan, it doesnโ€™t work.
                                          Strangely it works a little bit, but as you go up the revs in cuts out.
                                          It plays with you a little bit, then leaves you to do the walk of shame back to your house whilst it laughs behind your back.
                                          Maybe Iโ€™ve dramatised that a little.....ha-ha! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ก

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                                          @spanners
                                          Did u cut the plug off an join the wires
                                          Or are the plugs still there an u have joined the wire were it comes out the plug

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